what are the long term effects of shoveling processed food down our guts every day?
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The college basketball season is barreling toward disaster
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Isn't it interesting how nobody in America talks about that? Follow the money.
I agree, they are more likely going to catch virus if they were home in their communities than playing. Again, I disagreed with the article, the season should not be stopped because the alternative is probably worse. But its not soo far out of bounds at this point. At one time a pause till March seemed like a crazy solution, not now with skyrocking rates and with vaccines coming soon to general public.
Suicide is one thing, dieing from pneumonia could be result of covid, like coach Bozzella situation. You may be right with suicide, more may die short term from that than covid in that age group but lung scaring, complications from being intubated, coagulation and cardio issues. I think way way way more lives will be shorted in that age group than total number of suicide, just by shear numbers that will be exposed to it.
Then you factor in how people in this age group are more active, traveling, going out more and are the super spreaders that are asymptomatic. They may be the age group that runs into your Aunt, grandma, or older sister at that local restaurant, or your elderly neighbor is the patient after the super spreader when he is getting his denture treatment at the dentist. The other age groups then die more, sure that age group might be okay short-term but look at the big picture.
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Keep trying to scare people.
it looks like he is trying to preach common sense, which you seem to be lacking. nobody is scaring anyone, just trying to convey facts through a brick wall.
The Johns Hopkins study that got suppressed showed that the number of deaths for each age group during the pandemic was no higher than previous years. This means that people dying from heart attacks, motor cycle accidents, cancer, etc, are being ascribed as covid cases. Indeed, they may have had covid as a comorbidity. But it may not have been the real cause of death. This would help explain why deaths overall were not higher during the pandemic. The study was suppressed because it did not fit the narrative being foisted on the world.
How am I lacking common sense? And his posts have not been factual, they've actually been filled with misinformation and even outright lies.
Helps to get a 20% bonus if you label a death as caused by Covid.
I don’t necessarily agree with the former president but wanted to post it here so the idea doesn’t seem so out of bounds to many. We all need to get closer to center, including me.
Obama does not, in any way, shape, or form represent the center.
Considering young athletes in college are at little to no risk of the coronavirus, his comments are entirely off base.
The "unknown" is what's being used to control the American public. "Never waste a good crisis".
part of the reason Covid is the leading cause of death is that the Government did a nice thing that makes doctors WANT to use a Covid diagnosis. And what they did was allow them to be paid at the Medicare reimbursement rate when that diagnosis is used. So guess what doctors do when someone has crappy insurance and the flu????
oh yeah....they also created a special procedure code to reimbursement the offices time to sanitize the room.
I told someone last June that our country of 328 million will have 600 million cases of Covid when all is said and done.
oh yeah....they also created a special procedure code to reimbursement the offices time to sanitize the room.
I told someone last June that our country of 328 million will have 600 million cases of Covid when all is said and done.
Getting too political.
This will be transferred to LOTS shortly.
This will be transferred to LOTS shortly.
You guys that don’t believe should come to the hospital and check it out. Get a clue! It is real.
Nobody says it isn't real. The authoritarian, restrictive response to it is what many people are upset about.
That is complete nonsense. They are not making up Covid deaths. Stop.
Someone two posts above yours implies doctors are making cases up to steal government funding...
Aunt, grandma and older sis need to be more careful then. You shouldn’t shut down things like college sports.
You can still do that with a real virus. In fact, it's even easier to exaggerate a real thing than to invent something from nothing.
Remember Merge, see the forest through the trees.
It’s complete fabricated nonsense based on nothing.
I think believing that we have all of these nurses, doctors and hospital staff pumping up the numbers is completely childish BS.
It’s happened. I don’t know if it’s widespread. Doubtful it is. But it’s happened, particularly with elderly people that really just died of old age. I have first hand knowledge of 3 examples.
Assholes in Costco
I’m just back from Costco, where I acquired a chicken, drinks, a chunk of cheese, two dozen eggs — and some seriously raised blood pressure. As I stood in line, I noticed two people sans mask…
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Obviously I can’t speak to those cases, but even if they just died of old age last year and had the flu, they would have been coded with the flu. If pneumonia then that would have been the code. That’s how the system works.
But this year we have hundreds of thousands of “excess deaths” beyond what we expected. If there were a significant number of people dying with Covid who would have otherwise died this year, then that excess death number would not be as high as it is.
To suggest (as those have in this thread) that there are doctors, nurses and hospital administrators that are gaming the system is crazy. Any time your conspiracy theory requires thousands and thousands of people to be in on it, it is probably not true.
For shu09...United Passenger Lies About COVID Symptoms and Dies After Emergency Landing https://www.tmz.com/2020/12/19/man-dead-dies-united-flight-covid-coronavirus/
....always has an I don’t know or wait and see approach to any fact he doesn’t like.
I didn’t say I have evidence there’s a conspiracy about cooking numbers. But some hospitals etc make more $ by mentioning Covid in a death warrant regardless of the true cause. A very elderly family member died of kidney failure after a decade of dialysis. He stopped getting dialysis. The death warrant said Covid although he had no symptoms. It’s happening; and it’s not the first time hospitals have been accused of, to be fair, billing irregularities.
Now who’s being naive Kay?
Because you continually downplay everything surrounding covid. People want to go about living life and they gotta deal with the likes of you and this now deceased person who clearly didnt give a damn about anyone else but himself.
If it is listed on the death certificate, it is because the hospital believes it contributed to the death. If that person in your example got the flu after stopping dialysis, it would still count as a flu death because they would not distinguish between if it contributed 1% or 99%. That is how it works and how it has always worked.
There is no incentive to write down Covid as a cause of death. They are already being paid because of the diagnosis.
I’m not saying you believe a conspiracy theory. I am saying that others are suggesting it in this thread and they are basing off of a misunderstanding.
I’m not saying there will be zero errors. I am saying that any errors would not be material to the overall story. Excess deaths are up because of Covid. Doctors are not making up Covid deaths for people dying of other causes. If they were, excess deaths would not be up as significantly as they are.
Ignoring the Covid financial incentive
All 3 I knew had not been diagnosed with Covid until a post Mortem conducted
You’re confusing cause of death with hospital procedures that they bill for.
They do not get funding for the cause of death being listed as Covid. They do get funding for treating a Covid patient.
Here is an example of a form they would fill out.
If it is believed that Covid played a roll in the death at all, it will be included as a cause of death. If not, then it won’t.
Again... If Covid deaths were elevated because of a financial incentive to list them as Covid, then excess deaths would not be as high as they are.
This just isn’t true.
New Study Highlights Alleged Accounting Discrepancies Regarding COVID Deaths
At the time of this writing, the United States currently maintains the highest number of Covid-19 deaths and ranks 11th for the highest deaths per capita. There have been approximately 262,000 recorded Covid-19 deaths in the United States, which is certainly a concerning number. However, a...www.review-mag.com
As I posted in another thread.
The data is available here
First 49 weeks 2019 - 2,678,618
First 49 weeks 2020 - 2,999,326
2020 is also not complete since there is a reporting lag.
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