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and the vaccines. vaccines are essentiallt indefeated in the modern world. they always help.
But these aren’t vaccines. They changed the definition of a vaccine. A vaccine is to IMMUNIZE you from a disease. Now they are saying it’s not supposed to make you immune…only reduce the symptoms. With the Polio vaccine do you get less severe polio symptoms? No. You don’t get the disease. Same with MMR. They are gaslighting you. Wake up
 
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But these aren’t vaccines. They changed the definition of a vaccine. A vaccine is to IMMUNIZE you from a disease. Now they are saying it’s not supposed to make you immune…only reduce the symptoms. With the Polio vaccine do you get less severe polio symptoms? No. You don’t get the disease. Same with MMR. They are gaslighting you. Wake up

I love when people say “wake up” after spouting some nonsense that is just absolutely incorrect.

The point of a vaccine is to provoke an immune response to create antibodies to protect you against a specific infectious agent. Not every infectious agent will behave the same way, and not all vaccines prevent you from infection. Noticed you left out flu vaccines in the your post. Why? Doesn't fit the BS definition that you are making up?

It appears what happened with Omicron is that it is more transmissible and replicates in your body too quickly for the vaccines to have similar protection against infection as they had against previous variants, but if you are infected they still offer significant protection against sever disease.
 
But these aren’t vaccines. They changed the definition of a vaccine. A vaccine is to IMMUNIZE you from a disease. Now they are saying it’s not supposed to make you immune…only reduce the symptoms. With the Polio vaccine do you get less severe polio symptoms? No. You don’t get the disease. Same with MMR. They are gaslighting you. Wake up
did they change the flu vaccine definition too? shingles vaccine? etc?

btw, the covid vaccine was NEVER sold as able to make you completely immune (like the flu)

youre like a onion, layers of stupid
 
I love when people say “wake up” after spouting some nonsense that is just absolutely incorrect.

The point of a vaccine is to provoke an immune response to create antibodies to protect you against a specific infectious agent. Not every infectious agent will behave the same way, and not all vaccines prevent you from infection. Noticed you left out flu vaccines in the your post. Why? Doesn't fit the BS definition that you are making up?

It appears what happened with Omicron is that it is more transmissible and replicates in your body too quickly for the vaccines to have similar protection against infection as they had against previous variants, but if you are infected they still offer significant protection against sever disease.
lol maybe if you respond in ways theyre more likely to identify:

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did they change the flu vaccine definition too? shingles vaccine? etc?

btw, the covid vaccine was NEVER sold as able to make you completely immune (like the flu)

youre like a onion, layers of stupid
Lie. I can point you to quotes by Faucci and the media if you like
 
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Lie. I can point you to quotes by Faucci and the media if you like

smh... This is the problem. You're going to hunt for some out of context nonsense rather than trying to understand what the actual message was, and what the actual data was showing.... but they were telling you all along what vaccines do and what could happen over time.

This is from 8 months ago.


"A “breakthrough infection,” or a vaccine failure, is when a person contracts an infection despite being vaccinated against it. We see this with all vaccines in clinical trials. And in the real world, no vaccine is 100 percent efficacious or effective, which means that you will always see breakthrough infections regardless of the efficacy of your vaccine."

"“Secondary vaccine failure” may occur when immunity fades over time. Now, a vaccine may fail also if a person is exposed to a new or a different strain or a variant. For example, influenza is the most common of this, which mutates rapidly and drifts, genetically, generally from season to season. However, even if a vaccine fails to protect against infection, it often protects against serious disease."
 
Biden said you would not get covid if you took the vaccine.

See. You're hunting for a moment where they got it wrong rather than having an honest discussion about what the actual data was showing and what the scientists were actually saying. Biden was wrong when he said that.
 
See. You're hunting for a moment where they got it wrong rather than having an honest discussion about what the actual data was showing and what the scientists were actually saying. Biden was wrong when he said that.
Wait...is this Peppermint Patty the Whitehouse press secretary...Also know as the master of gaslighting?
 
Biden said you would not get covid if you took the vaccine.
Biden said it, Faucci said it. CDC director said it, Maddow et al said it repeatedly. Now they say they never said it but it's on video. They are shameless liars and if you call them on it they call you a crazy conspiracy theorist or anti-vaxer. Then you have guys like Merge regurgitating the lies and false science. Scary how much this mirrors 1984.
 
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PirateFan94, a complete troll. Who would waste their time talking to them?
 
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No, I just actually take the time to understand the science and the data.

You hunt for an out of context contradiction.
There is no way to claim "OUT OF CONTEXT' When the exact quote is "if you take the vaccine you won't get the virus...period" From our incompetent president in name only. Let's go Brandon!
 
"If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in the IC unit, and you're not going to die,"

aaaand youre wrong.
 
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Actually about 30% of hospitalizations are vaccinated.

Hunting for contradiction. It was hyperbole, not saying literally no one will die… All of the science, all of the actual data at the time was (and still is) showing the significant benefit of being vaccinated.

Should he have exaggerated? No, but that’s not really a part of an honest discussion about the effectiveness of the vaccines.
 
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Actually about 30% of hospitalizations are vaccinated.
wait are you moving the goalposts? thats a classic response you typically use. sounds like biden didnt say "you wont get it", which was the topic at hand.

its nice when things are neatly settled
 
wtf is this? ignore button. qanon lunatic stuff
It’s your hero Rachel Madcow. It’s recorded. Your only retort is it’s Qanon? Say what you want about the host but you can’t deny the fact that the lib media lies and you fall for it. Ignore me. Who cares? You obviously are a sheep who ignores facts.
 
"If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in the IC unit, and you're not going to die,"

aaaand youre wrong.
So… leave out the line “you’re ok, you’re not going to get Covid if you get the vaccinations”. Wow. Either you are deliberately lying or your just so brainwashed you don’t hear the truth.
 
not in that article , which was given as "proof"

i have no time to listen to a nutjob podcast that biden isnt even on. perhaps you have actual proof?

He did.


"You’re not going to — you’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations. "

But if you listened to the entire town hall, you would understand that he wasn't saying that literally no vaccinated people will get Covid. He stated that earlier during the town hall.
You would also understand that he wasn't say that literally no vaccinated people will die of Covid. He stated that earlier as well.

But people can't have honest discussions here because they found a contradiction.
 
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not in that article , which was given as "proof"

i have no time to listen to a nutjob podcast that biden isnt even on. perhaps you have actual proof?
It’s a 30 second clip of Biden SAYING YOU WON’T GET COVID. You spend more than 30 seconds typing you ignorant responses.
 
not in that article , which was given as "proof"

i have no time to listen to a nutjob podcast that biden isnt even on. perhaps you have actual proof?

This has been talked about by people for months since it was in a CNN "town hall". I shouldn't have to do the grunt work for something so obvious that you can simply google, but you're lazy so here you go:

 
He did.


"You’re not going to — you’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations. "

But if you listened to the entire town hall, you would understand that he wasn't saying that literally no vaccinated people will get Covid. He stated that earlier during the town hall.
You would also understand that he wasn't say that literally no vaccinated people will die of Covid. He stated that earlier as well.

But people can't have honest discussions here because they found a contradiction.
and at that time it was much harder to get covid when vaccinated
 
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It’s a 30 second clip of Biden SAYING YOU WON’T GET COVID. You spend more than 30 seconds typing you ignorant responses.
30 second clip sounds like editing the one moment out of context to fit your narrative. lmao
 
He did.


"You’re not going to — you’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations. "

But if you listened to the entire town hall, you would understand that he wasn't saying that literally no vaccinated people will get Covid. He stated that earlier during the town hall.
You would also understand that he wasn't say that literally no vaccinated people will die of Covid. He stated that earlier as well.

But people can't have honest discussions here because they found a contradiction.
Everything they’ve said about the vaccines has been a lie. They said they would end the pandemic. They said you wouldn’t need masks if you’re vaccinated. They said you couldn’t spread it if you’re vaccinated. They said you weren’t going to get it if you’re vaccinated. Then they moved the goal posts and said it would be mild and you wouldn’t need the hospital if vaccinated. These are all things that I can prove were said by Faucci, Biden and all the left media. None of them are true. The whole thing is textbook left political tactics, never let a crisis go to waste. It’s an opportunity to grab power.
little by little they grow government control. You probably missed it but are you aware that in the “ American Rescue Plan” they snuck in a provision requiring payment apps to report transactions of more than $600 aggregate per year to the IRS? They’re trying to implement a provision for banks to report any transactions over $600 in the “Build back better” BS. You don’t think they’re trying to monitor your every purchase?
 
wait are you moving the goalposts? thats a classic response you typically use. sounds like biden didnt say "you wont get it", which was the topic at hand.

its nice when things are neatly settled
I was just responding to your post and that you were incorrect
 
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30 second clip sounds like editing the one moment out of context to fit your narrative. lmao
It was not edited…just the doddering fool we have occupying the Whitehouse struggling to string a sentence together. Do you even know what the definition of out of context is? It’s not out of context, it’s an outright lie. Merge already confirmed it was said…multiple times and repeated by everyone on the left.
 
"Build back better" is the coordinated international effort for more government control across all nations. Every world politician was using that talking point last year.
 
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"Build back better" is the coordinated international effort for more government control across all nations. Every world politician was using that talking point last year.
Is that something you support? God I hope not.
 
Hunting for contradiction. It was hyperbole, not saying literally no one will die… All of the science, all of the actual data at the time was (and still is) showing the significant benefit of being vaccinated.

Should he have exaggerated? No, but that’s not really a part of an honest discussion about the effectiveness of the vaccines.
I was just responding to SHUSA’s post.

I’ve never questioned the effectiveness of the vaccines. And you’re right, there is no reason to exaggerate.
 
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