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Willard did a good job overall at Seton Hall.

Willard will be a good coach for Villanova.

Willard is a slimeball for the way he handles himself.
Spot on. It's a slimeball business and there's a 99% chance anyone trying to do things the right way will get eaten alive by slimeballs. I think it's disgusting how he's put things out publicly, but I guarantee you the school is trying to screw him royally behind the scenes especially at a school with football
 
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So an NIT run is better than a NCAA tournament first round loss?
My point is this...
You would like to see improvement as a season goes on and no lulls...you got lulls with willard...we will call it the growing pains phase...he has could not navigate important observations in tourney games...people care about deep runs, butler, vcu, mason all memorable, loyola chicago...however regular seasons matter too...for the most part conf tourney week are overrated...results far more significant for low and mid major one-bid leagues...again show me in the new big east the results in march madness of the team that wins the title at msg...some great outliers and some dreadful underperformances
 
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Willard will be a good coach for Villanova.

We shall see. He'll probably have the 2nd most resources after SJU. Nova fans didn't think too highly of him when he was at SHU, but then again, they had Jay Wright. He nearly extended his 1st weekend exit streak last week, if not for an extremely tough make. Personally, I think he's nuts to leave the B10.
 
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My point is this...
You would like to see improvement as a season goes on and no lulls...you got lulls with willard...we will call it the growing pains phase...he has could not navigate important observations in tourney games...people care about deep runs, butler, vcu, mason all memorable, loyola chicago...however regular seasons matter too...for the most part conf tourney week are overrated...results far more significant for low and mid major one-bid leagues...again show me in the new big east the results in march madness of the team that wins the title at msg...some great outliers and some dreadful underperformances
UConn. Last year.
 
Willard did a good job overall at Seton Hall.

Willard will be a good coach for Villanova.

Willard is a slimeball for the way he handles himself.
This is what I’m talking about. Yes he was a great coach for the Hall but… he’s leaving a lot to be desired in terms of how he acts.
 
My point is this...
You would like to see improvement as a season goes on and no lulls...you got lulls with willard...we will call it the growing pains phase...he has could not navigate important observations in tourney games...people care about deep runs, butler, vcu, mason all memorable, loyola chicago...however regular seasons matter too...for the most part conf tourney week are overrated...results far more significant for low and mid major one-bid leagues...again show me in the new big east the results in march madness of the team that wins the title at msg...some great outliers and some dreadful underperformances
If the last 3 years don't tell you anything about valuing the entire season over one weekend in March, you're a lost cause. Willard entire seasons have been as good as it gets for Seton Hall as we never had to the funds to get players the Villanova Wildcat$ got. We've never had the best roster in the league.
 
My point is this...
You would like to see improvement as a season goes on and no lulls...you got lulls with willard...we will call it the growing pains phase...he has could not navigate important observations in tourney games...people care about deep runs, butler, vcu, mason all memorable, loyola chicago...however regular seasons matter too...for the most part conf tourney week are overrated...results far more significant for low and mid major one-bid leagues...again show me in the new big east the results in march madness of the team that wins the title at msg...some great outliers and some dreadful underperformances
IDK how different that is than most teams though unless you’re top-10 legit. Willard was very consistent here, 6/7 NCAAT to end the season. If you think the 1-5 NCAAT record was as good as it was going to get, or you thought he’d eventually break through (me) probably depends how you view his tenure. It was very good overall, IMO. The season I thought we were clearly underachieving for a long stretch was 2017-18 with those Seniors. That team lost 7/10 in the BE. 🤷‍♂️
Spot on. It's a slimeball business and there's a 99% chance anyone trying to do things the right way will get eaten alive by slimeballs. I think it's disgusting how he's put things out publicly, but I guarantee you the school is trying to screw him royally behind the scenes especially at a school with football

This is what I’m talking about. Yes he was a great coach for the Hall but… he’s leaving a lot to be desired in terms of how he acts.

I agree with both. His comments publicly when he left us were rough. Getting blown out made it worse.

He’s leveraging Maryland publicly to get what he wants obv. Do they cater? Maryland has a long history of issues with managing their resources. Administrators are just as slimy. Talking this way while your team is playing is ridiculous to me but this is now the second time he’s done it. He’s got leverage with Maryland thanks to Villanova (again, the better job). Good for him.
 
Florida by 25 over Maryland. Bet on it
I mean, Florida is probably 8 or 10 points better than them, anyway. But I get your point, and I might disagree, though. A few years ago, yes -- the Terps would absolutely tank because they know he's gone and leaving them.

Now? I think it's all year by year, and they are no more bound to Maryland than he is. I think they go out and play hard and when it's over, it's over. No hard feelings. Each year has become a strictly individual and transactional experience.

I learned something watching Will Wade speak transparently about what he was doing with McNeese and NC State. I think that's just how it is now.
 
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I mean, Florida is probably 8 or 10 points better than them, anyway. But I get your point, and I might disagree, though. A few years ago, yes -- the Terps would absolutely tank because they know he's gone and leaving them.

Now? I think it's all year by year, and they are no more bound to Maryland than he is. I think they go out and play hard and when it's over, it's over. No hard feelings. Each year has become a strictly individual and transactional experience.

I learned something watching Will Wade speak transparently about what he was doing with McNeese and NC State. I think that's just hwo it is now.
Good take. All the former cheaters under old rules have been normalized. Look at the crap Wade was engaged in and how he handled his LSU mess. Now he acts like an open, honest broker. The world has been turned upside down. I like to quip that if we leave anything up to adults, they'll bastardize it and ruin it.
 
So wild if Willard ends up coaching Nova. Never would have imagined that years ago. Nor would Nova fans! And now they're excited by the prospect? If so, that would have been even harder to have imagined.

Anyway, I'll have nothing against Kevin if he's at Nova next year. He accomplished a lot for our program relative to our history, and he's never said a negative thing about the Hall. This won't be like Dean Smith showing up at Duke or anything.

Will be rooting for him and the Terps tonight (not that I'll actually watch the game; but you know what I mean). Would be so wild if he somehow wins. Does he still leave no matter what happens in the tournament?
 
I'm just loving the meltdowns all these Maryland fans are having lol. None of them had a problem when it was their school negotiating with Willard while his current team was still in the tournament, but now that they're on the other side it's so unprofessional and this unfathomable betrayal. I don't really love seeing him end up at Nova, but I hope he goes.
 
Does he still leave no matter what happens in the tournament?
I think that's the $64,000 question. If he loses tonight, then yes, his signature is on the contract by lunch on Saturday. But let's just say they go all the way. How on earth could Maryland let him walk? Surely they can afford him, and you'd think the "NIL" options would drastically increase.
 
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I think that's the $64,000 question. If he loses tonight, then yes, his signature is on the contract by lunch on Saturday. But let's just say they go all the way. How on earth could Maryland let him walk? Surely they can afford him, and you'd think the "NIL" options would drastically increase.
I would think yes. For as much as people want to tell me Maryland is a basketball school, they are a basketball school without an AD that also plays big ten football. They can bring in an AD next month who is looking to build up football more than anything and he won't get a shot at another Villanova.
 
I would think yes. For as much as people want to tell me Maryland is a basketball school, they are a basketball school without an AD that also plays big ten football. They can bring in an AD next month who is looking to build up football more than anything and he won't get a shot at another Villanova.
All true. I guess Evans left for SMU at a very unfortunate time for Terps fans. It'll be interesting to see how it all goes down, especially if they advance.
 
We shall see. He'll probably have the 2nd most resources after SJU. Nova fans didn't think too highly of him when he was at SHU, but then again, they had Jay Wright. He nearly extended his 1st weekend exit streak last week, if not for an extremely tough make. Personally, I think he's nuts to leave the B10.
IF the refs had the BALLS to call a walk at the end of the game all this would be over with .
 
I think that's the $64,000 question. If he loses tonight, then yes, his signature is on the contract by lunch on Saturday. But let's just say they go all the way. How on earth could Maryland let him walk? Surely they can afford him, and you'd think the "NIL" options would drastically increase.

I would think yes. For as much as people want to tell me Maryland is a basketball school, they are a basketball school without an AD that also plays big ten football. They can bring in an AD next month who is looking to build up football more than anything and he won't get a shot at another Villanova.
I think he’s gone either way, but the heat and awkwardness gets insane if he wins both games over the next 3 days. And I think they could, his team is good. It seems deeper than what they can give him in salary. Maryland wants to be a football school. Their people want to focus on football. The problem is not letting him go for salary – it’s he wants the commitment in writing of resources to basketball because he knows what will happen.

Maryland is also notorious for issues in the Athletic Department and functional dizziness. That predates Willard. Probably why he bitched about not spending an extra night in NYC too.

He will get what he wants from Villanova. The funny thing is if this revenue sharing deal goes the way where it does help basketball only schools, he would’ve had a fighting chance at the same had he stayed at The Hall. Things are changing so rapidly year to year.
 
He will get what he wants from Villanova. The funny thing is if this revenue sharing deal goes the way where it does help basketball only schools, he would’ve had a fighting chance at the same had he stayed at The Hall. Things are changing so rapidly year to year.
Revenue sharing will benefit the hall nationally but within the conference it's helping everyone equally, essentially still having us near the bottom in a conference where at minimum you play 21 games a year. We have to think outside the box or find better value guys that work to win within the conference.
 
I think he’s gone either way, but the heat and awkwardness gets insane if he wins both games over the next 3 days. And I think they could, his team is good. It seems deeper than what they can give him in salary. Maryland wants to be a football school. Their people want to focus on football. The problem is not letting him go for salary – it’s he wants the commitment in writing of resources to basketball because he knows what will happen.

Maryland is also notorious for issues in the Athletic Department and functional dizziness. That predates Willard. Probably why he bitched about not spending an extra night in NYC too.

He will get what he wants from Villanova. The funny thing is if this revenue sharing deal goes the way where it does help basketball only schools, he would’ve had a fighting chance at the same had he stayed at The Hall. Things are changing so rapidly year to year.
Willard will never back out on Jay Wright. If he wins a Natty he owed MD nothing. I suspect we will hear that Willard was getting shot down on program asks for a long time. There will be a good spin here for Willard.
 
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It us about the money just like slick in wwf always said
What joke. If someone wants him bad enough they'll pay the extra half million for him. An extra few days in the portal could make up a half million dollars easily in revenue next year in someones mind. Half million dollars is a joke at this point when it comes what people are getting paid. If he lost last week they'd probably pay for the extra week, no different than many other coaches moving on. Considering it's only 4 or 2 days, they may wait, but the money is insignificant for most schools.
 
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I think he’s gone either way, but the heat and awkwardness gets insane if he wins both games over the next 3 days. And I think they could, his team is good. It seems deeper than what they can give him in salary. Maryland wants to be a football school. Their people want to focus on football. The problem is not letting him go for salary – it’s he wants the commitment in writing of resources to basketball because he knows what will happen.

Maryland is also notorious for issues in the Athletic Department and functional dizziness. That predates Willard. Probably why he bitched about not spending an extra night in NYC too.

He will get what he wants from Villanova. The funny thing is if this revenue sharing deal goes the way where it does help basketball only schools, he would’ve had a fighting chance at the same had he stayed at The Hall. Things are changing so rapidly year to year.
Revenue sharing yes. But we can’t come close to NIL from boosters.
 
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Willard will never back out on Jay Wright. If he wins a Natty he owed MD nothing. I suspect we will hear that Willard was getting shot down on program asks for a long time. There will be a good spin here for Willard.
Maybe the extra night in nyc around the holidays was the point of no return
 
Elaborate.
Maybe reach out to more than the same 10 people. Maybe admit that George Kurtz isn’t going to come save us and move on and focus your attention on someone who will actually give you the time of day. This isn’t rocket science and we don’t have to make it harder than it should be!
 
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Willard seems like a guy who will continuously leverage himself into better gigs. Almost like he can’t help himself. I get other guys do it but his consistency at it is what gets tiresome. Its one thing to be approached, over the years it seems like he’s put himself out there for this to happen.

I think he regrets doing it so secretively while at SHU and that’s why he is so public about it now.
 
Reading how he’s playing this situation, I’d guess Villanova has given him a very strong offer and he’s out unless Maryland seriously capitulates. You don’t take this approach unless you’re negotiating from a strong point imo.
 
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