This is a good post, and I completely agree. Nothing is forced on either program. We both agree to play it every year because, well, each program is the other's natural, in-state rival. Denying that is silly.
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A school whose home court is a 2000 seat gymnasium with a stage on one end of the court is "big brother." Awesome stuff.
I was referring to us, apologize for the confusion. Maryland was at full strength to the best of my knowledge.
By that logic, Georgetown must be small-time, too, with their "home court" being McDonough Gymnasium.
By that thinking, if New Jersey was the size of Pennsylvania then Villanova and St. John’s would both be our natural, in-state rivals.
If only The Hall had the opportunity to waste countless taxpayer dollars maybe the "on campus" home gym would be bigger...
Our home court is the Prudential Center and, especially compared to the grammar school gym you call home, is awesome stuff!
Huh? “Beat the tar out of us?” The series is 5-5 over the last ten games.
Just be happy there are 2 really good NJ teams in 2 of the best basketball conferences this year. I don't buy the asterisk by this years game, because the very next game without Powell you won @ Md. Rutgers is an elite defensive team and shares the wins. Rutgers have won our last 2 games without Geo. The key to our wins is different guys step up each game, you can't say we need to stop player A, because player B, C and D will hurt you and E, F, and G will contribute. Nebraska was Caleb McConnell and Myles Johnson, last night was Ron Harper Jr and Jacob Young. SHU was Ron Harper Jr and Akwasi Yeboah. Wisconsin was Geo Baker and Myles Johnson. That's the difference in why this team is different than any of the last 29 years we haven't been to the NCAAs.
But it isn't. Rutgers is something like 26 miles from Seton Hall, and actually in the same state. And it just feels better to beat them than those others (which is also lots of fun).
Forgive him, he said he has been a fan since the late 80's so he has never seen RU win a game in the NCAA tournament. Sometimes it is easy to forget that we have lost to some bad teams over the years.
Yeah, can't take anything away from that win. You guys came out really strong.
The biggest thing with you guys is that you play incredibly well at home but have to prove you can win on the road.
This weekend is actually a good test for RU. If you can beat Illinois on the road, I will believe you are legit this year.
That is absolutely correct about not using net for selection last year, but I think they went totally by net for seeding in the tournament.
Way back in the day, Rivals did a reset that cleared out everyone's metrics. Many of us changed our user names at that time (I dropped a number from mine). Cuba was very active back then. I forget what this platform was before Rivals stepped in.
Well that's just a dumb post. Home court has been filled at 15,000+ several times this year.
It was Rivals, then that was purchased by Alliance Sports, then it either returned or was rebranded as Rivals back in 2001, I think - maybe after it was bought out by Yahoo? There are much more detailed explanations of this out there, but this bare-boned recollection is more or less what it was. When Alliance stepped in or when it was renamed Rivals, I think that's when things were reset. There are a few of us with June 2001 "joined" dates, but I know I was using this very platform since like 1998 or even before.
Don't really get all the vitriol. I'm a Rutgers fan and I usually pull for SHU when they make the tourney. I have plenty of friends that attended or root for both schools. Outside of one game a year it's not a direct competition and there is plenty of talent to go around. I mean it's not like SHU is a wretched hive of scum and villainy like Penn State.
Have you asked kyk1827? Seriously, though, most of the ru folks who come here are good posters, even when they're rubbing our noses in it a bit. We all have friends who bleed Scarlet, but still hate losing to ru more than any other team. I am starting to enjoy beating Nova more, though -- they are not gracious in defeat.
the season will determine how good the NJ schools are. RU could have beaten us 5 times in a row on that day where we lost Mamu and then Powell again. And PSU, they are good ...but prob deserve to be outside the top 25 which will happen this week. RU needs to keep winning as well as SHU before we can brag.
I do think RU ha a chance to make the NCAA just based on how they are playing though.
I do think RU ha a chance to make the NCAA just based on how they are playing though.
Whoa! Let’s not jump the gun. Danny has UCONN at 9-5, 0-2 in the AAC. Certainly its still early in his time at UCONN but i recall a few posters predict he’d have them in the FF in 3-4 years when he got hired. He has not proven yet that he can compete with the top teams in the AAC. Sure he’ll recruit well but the BE is a little tougher than the AAC.
For me it started on a forum called Big East Briefs, then I moved here at some point.
This. RU ran their team out of the gym just a few weeks ago. You can clearly see some people here are still bothered by it.
So after one win over an injury-depleted squad, keeping in mind the 29 years since rutgers' last NCAA appearance, you are going with "higher ceiling"?
Guys, guys! What are we even debating here? It's January 8th. Let's put this in perspective.
We're talking about a team which hasn't even had a postseason since 2006 - almost fifteen years ago!
We're talking about a team which hasn't even made the tournament since 1991(1991!) - almost three full decades!
We're talking about a team which hasn't even won an NCAA tournament game since 1983!
We're talking about a team which hasn't even been to the round of sixteen since 1979(back when there were only 32 teams allowed)!
That's who they are. Less than zero. That's reality. Until proven otherwise, nothing else matters. Nothing changes. It's all just talk.
To put it in context, PJ was the Seton Hall coach(and still would be for several seasons)the last time they made the tournament. Putting it in terms of music history, when rutgers last won an NCAA tournament game, Springsteen's Born In The U.S.A. album was still a full calendar year away. The band U2's first US top 40 single was still a full calendar year away. Some of us weren't even born yet. To those of us who have not yet reached middle age, that seems like another lifetime ago. In terms of US politics, Reagan had not even been elected president when rutgers was last in the round of 16 - before expansion. The last time they won multiple games in the NCAA tournament, JAWS mania was just starting to die off. There was no STAR WARS yet. Think about that.
Again, it's January 8th. We know how quickly fortunes can change - for better or worse. It doesn't matter what conference they're(currently) in. It doesn't matter what special funding they have. It doesn't matter what their current "trajectory" is. It's all talk. That's all they have. Results matter.
Yes, they beat Seton Hall occasionally. (They rush the court too, so obviously it means a lot more to them than Seton Hall.) However, the facts clearly state that until they actually make or do something in the NCAA tournament, they are completely irrelevant. They are nothing. They've done nothing....for years. There's a map, and guess what? They're not on it. Until they do something, it's all talk from a desperate, success starved fan base who has gone from one major disaster, disappointment and embarrassment to another.
Case closed.
We're talking about a team which hasn't even had a postseason since 2006 - almost fifteen years ago!
We're talking about a team which hasn't even made the tournament since 1991(1991!) - almost three full decades!
We're talking about a team which hasn't even won an NCAA tournament game since 1983!
We're talking about a team which hasn't even been to the round of sixteen since 1979(back when there were only 32 teams allowed)!
That's who they are. Less than zero. That's reality. Until proven otherwise, nothing else matters. Nothing changes. It's all just talk.
To put it in context, PJ was the Seton Hall coach(and still would be for several seasons)the last time they made the tournament. Putting it in terms of music history, when rutgers last won an NCAA tournament game, Springsteen's Born In The U.S.A. album was still a full calendar year away. The band U2's first US top 40 single was still a full calendar year away. Some of us weren't even born yet. To those of us who have not yet reached middle age, that seems like another lifetime ago. In terms of US politics, Reagan had not even been elected president when rutgers was last in the round of 16 - before expansion. The last time they won multiple games in the NCAA tournament, JAWS mania was just starting to die off. There was no STAR WARS yet. Think about that.
Again, it's January 8th. We know how quickly fortunes can change - for better or worse. It doesn't matter what conference they're(currently) in. It doesn't matter what special funding they have. It doesn't matter what their current "trajectory" is. It's all talk. That's all they have. Results matter.
Yes, they beat Seton Hall occasionally. (They rush the court too, so obviously it means a lot more to them than Seton Hall.) However, the facts clearly state that until they actually make or do something in the NCAA tournament, they are completely irrelevant. They are nothing. They've done nothing....for years. There's a map, and guess what? They're not on it. Until they do something, it's all talk from a desperate, success starved fan base who has gone from one major disaster, disappointment and embarrassment to another.
Case closed.
So tired of Rutgers posts on a Seton Hall basketball forum. The school sucks. The sports suck and the people suck.
speaks volumes that they take the time out of their day to try to show us they are worth even a thought.
speaks volumes that they take the time out of their day to try to show us they are worth even a thought.
That is one hell of a board debut.
You sir are the man! Epic first post.
If you use that logic you might as well accept you will always be the little bitch of big 10 football because SHI stadium is equivalent to a gym with a stage on one end.
So if Greg gets you to as many bowl games as Willard has taken us to NCAA tournaments this time around, will you still consider yourselves the little bitch of the big 10 because your stadium isn’t up to modern standards? No because on field matters and based on that in basketball over the last half century we are big brother.
And they keep trying to sell us RU is a much greater academic school. I’m hoping for RU’s sake you never were able to take a class there with that logic.
Don't you all think it would be a blast if SHU and RU were perennial top 25 teams? The rivalry would be awesome. I don't root against SHU anymore because we're in different leagues. My disdain for SHU turned 180 degrees when we went our separate ways. I'd love to see our games become the northeast equivalent of UNC/Duke.
Since when was winning a home basketball game against Penn State a big deal? Since when did Penn State become a basketball school?
We beat Florida A&M at home this year. Should we have gone to the Rutgers board to talk some smack?
We beat Florida A&M at home this year. Should we have gone to the Rutgers board to talk some smack?
Kyk is a psycho. He was recently ejected from a game for being a horse's bleep, and was pounding a conspiracy theory about Miles Powell not really being hurt for a week after the game.
Lol, thanks for the perspective.
I mean, who the hell gets tossed from a college basketball game? Maniacs.
I'm talking over the past 30 years, but you probably haven't been alive long enough to have that perspective.
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