25% of Americans will not take COVID Vaccine

[shufan1993]

Just like the Super Bowl was going to be a superspreader, right?

I never thought and never said the super bowl would be a super spreader. But if you have the post by me please share. I would be happy to review it. This March variant surge is real and only a matter of time. We can be optimistic about where we are now and fearful where we are heading.

But again it is ok if you don't want to listen to me.

 

[Merge]

You still just don't get it. As one expert said weeks ago, 'This is the calm before the storm". This was expected. As well as what is about to come in the next several weeks.

What you are missing is how effective the vaccine is. Even against other strains.

 

[shufan1993]

You must have not read the LA Times article? You must not get it either. Its only a matter of time before a variant is able to beat the vaccine.

 

[shu09]

I never thought and never said the super bowl would be a super spreader.

All the "experts" said it would be. Even the mayor of Tampa was out there the next day shaming people.

 

[shufan1993]

All the "experts" said it would be. Even the mayor of Tampa was out there the next day shaming people.

Ok? Well I disagreed with the Mayor then. I don't think the experts predicted that by the way.

 

[Merge]

You must have not read the LA Times article? You must not get it either. Its only a matter of time before a variant is able to beat the vaccine.

That's just a guess at this point, but the first place that would show up?
Positivity rate. Then new hospitalizations.

Time to work on a new shtick. This one is almost over.

 

[shu09]

Ok? Well I disagreed with the Mayor then. I don't think the experts predicted that by the way.

Oh yes they did. You just don't hear about it now because the complicit media won't do a follow up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/02/05/covid-spread-super-bowl/

Super Bowl superspreader? Health experts urge fans to party remotely

The COVID-19 spike from holiday gatherings appears to be easing. The concern is Super Bowl gatherings could reverse that trend.

www.khou.com

Why experts are so worried about Super Bowl 'superspreader' parties

Worried about potential superspreading events, CDC is advising Americans not to gather for the coming Super Bowl Sunday. But for those who will gather regardless, the agency has released some very specific safety guidelines—including the safest way to cheer your team on.

www.advisory.com

Super Bowl Party or Superspreader Event? (Published 2021)

Experts offer tips on how to stay safe. For one, don’t plan on shouting or cheering with your friends.

www.nytimes.com

Medical Experts Warn Against ‘Superspreader' Super Bowl Parties

As positive COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations taper off, medical experts are warning against “superspreader” Super Bowl parties this weekend. “We’re not near the home stretch. Even though the vaccines are already there, we’re still far from vaccinating enough people for the virus to not be a...

www.nbcsandiego.com

 

[shufan1993]

Oh yes they did. You just don't hear about it now because the complicit media won't do a follow up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/02/05/covid-spread-super-bowl/

Super Bowl superspreader? Health experts urge fans to party remotely

The COVID-19 spike from holiday gatherings appears to be easing. The concern is Super Bowl gatherings could reverse that trend.

www.khou.com

Why experts are so worried about Super Bowl 'superspreader' parties

Worried about potential superspreading events, CDC is advising Americans not to gather for the coming Super Bowl Sunday. But for those who will gather regardless, the agency has released some very specific safety guidelines—including the safest way to cheer your team on.

www.advisory.com

Super Bowl Party or Superspreader Event? (Published 2021)

Experts offer tips on how to stay safe. For one, don’t plan on shouting or cheering with your friends.

www.nytimes.com

Medical Experts Warn Against ‘Superspreader' Super Bowl Parties

As positive COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations taper off, medical experts are warning against “superspreader” Super Bowl parties this weekend. “We’re not near the home stretch. Even though the vaccines are already there, we’re still far from vaccinating enough people for the virus to not be a...

www.nbcsandiego.com

Ok. Please send me the post where I said the super bowl will be a super spreader event. Thank you.

 

[shufan1993]

Another day, hospitalizations up again! We are heading toward March and we are not at the .7 RT rate Ms. Judy wanted us to reach in order to prevent another spike! I am trying to warn this board. But it is ok if you don't want to listen. Experts are now saying a surge will happen. One doctor in the below article even stated "The US has to prepare for a potentially devasting third wave in March and April" See first article below.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/25/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

Also- a new variant has been found in New York that so far has shown to evade the vaccine/antibody treatments. See second article below:

Researchers find worrying new coronavirus variant in New York City | CNN

Two separate teams of researchers have found a worrying new coronavirus variant in New York City that carries mutations that help it evade the body's natural immune response -- as well as the effects of monoclonal antibody treatments.

www.cnn.com

At last, see Kurt's numbers below. Hospitalizations up again:

 

[shufan1993]

Oh yes they did. You just don't hear about it now because the complicit media won't do a follow up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/02/05/covid-spread-super-bowl/

Super Bowl superspreader? Health experts urge fans to party remotely

The COVID-19 spike from holiday gatherings appears to be easing. The concern is Super Bowl gatherings could reverse that trend.

www.khou.com

Why experts are so worried about Super Bowl 'superspreader' parties

Worried about potential superspreading events, CDC is advising Americans not to gather for the coming Super Bowl Sunday. But for those who will gather regardless, the agency has released some very specific safety guidelines—including the safest way to cheer your team on.

www.advisory.com

Super Bowl Party or Superspreader Event? (Published 2021)

Experts offer tips on how to stay safe. For one, don’t plan on shouting or cheering with your friends.

www.nytimes.com

Medical Experts Warn Against ‘Superspreader' Super Bowl Parties

As positive COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations taper off, medical experts are warning against “superspreader” Super Bowl parties this weekend. “We’re not near the home stretch. Even though the vaccines are already there, we’re still far from vaccinating enough people for the virus to not be a...

www.nbcsandiego.com

Hello. Following up. I asked you to provide me the post where I said the super bowl will be a "super spreader event". You claimed in one of your posts a couple days ago I said so. Please share this post.

 

[Merge]

At last, see Kurt's numbers below. Hospitalizations up again:

Add in the context.
New Covid admissions in NJ are the lowest they have been since October.

 

[shufan1993]

Add in the context.
New Covid admissions in NJ are the lowest they have been since October.

Ok. Are you denying what experts have been warning about the next couple months?

Phenomenal the numbers are low now! But unfortunately they will go up again soon.

 

[shu09]

Hello. Following up. I asked you to provide me the post where I said the super bowl will be a "super spreader event". You claimed in one of your posts a couple days ago I said so. Please share this post.

I never said that, liar. I said experts said it, troll.

 

[Merge]

Ok. Are you denying what experts have been warning about the next couple months?

Phenomenal the numbers are low now! But unfortunately they will go up again soon.

Not denying anything. I have my opinions based on the trends and efficacy of the vaccine.

Just saying if you look at todays hospital numbers in NJ and think that is a sign of bad news, you are ignoring that the trends in hospitalizations in NJ is actually pretty positive.

 

[shufan1993]

I never said that, liar. I said experts said it, troll.

Governor Murphy is now warning us about the New York variant. "God help us if we see a similar situation to last March and April. So far this variant has been evading Antibody treatments".

N.J. reports 70 more COVID deaths, 3,079 cases as Murphy warns of New York City variant

New Jersey's number of hospitalized COVID-19 patients fell for the first time in three days and nearly 600,000 people have now been fully vaccinated in the state.

www.nj.com

 

[shufan1993]

@Merge see above post. Murphy is now beginning to warn us about the NYC variant.

 

[Section112]

Did you hear about the Bayonne NJ variant? Run...

 

[shu09]

Did you hear about the Bayonne NJ variant? Run...

haha! I heard it has the capability to get inside hazmat suits too.

 

[shufan1993]

A glimpse of hope. Covid hospitalizations sub 2k

 

[shufan1993]

@Merge @shu09 Kurt is starting to realize case numbers are going back up. We have to wait on hospitalizations now. This is possibly the beginning of the late Feb/March spike experts have warned about. I have been trying to warn this board, but unfortunately people did not want to listen.

 

[shufan1993]

Governor murphy mentioned on morning joe this morning its still "several months" away until "open season" for vaccines. I supposed vaccines were going to be available to the general public in may. Looks like that is no longer the case.

N.J. teachers, child care, transportation workers to become eligible for COVID vaccine, Murphy says

Gov. Phil Murphy said the expanded eligibility group for the coronavirus vaccine would begin March 15 and also include 'additional public safety workers'

www.nj.com

 

[shufan1993]

@Merge The governor also mentioned on "Morning Joe" this morning that people in this state will still be following "mask wearing/social distancing" even after we reach herd immunity and have the cases down to the necessary baseline. Joe even asked the governor do you see mask mandates enforced in your state a year from now? Governor murphy answered saying "That's not out of the question.". It appears you will not be posting on this board after Labor day.

 

[Merge]

Positivity rate and change in hospitalizations.

^ Those are the only metrics which will make me reassess my expectation.

Right now, both are trending in the right direction.

 

[shufan1993]

I was told repeatedly on this board that I would be wrong about a march spike and the variants causing us to move backwards. It appears we are heading in the direction. Unfortunately it appears I will be right again.

@Merge Kept on telling me we are heading toward of this pandemic. I don't think that's the case.

 

[shufan1993]

Another article pointing to the fact all of our progress could be on the brink of being wiped out. I stressed this to this board the last couple weeks, and no one wanted to listen.

All our recent progress with Covid-19 could be wiped out by variants, CDC director says. 'Please stay strong'

After weeks of tumbling case numbers, new infections and deaths are on the rise again. Now the US is at risk of losing recent gains in the fight against Covid-19 as highly contagious variants take advantage of Americans getting lax with safety measures.

www.cnn.com

 

[shufan1993]

Positivity rate and change in hospitalizations.

^ Those are the only metrics which will make me reassess my expectation.

Right now, both are trending in the right direction.

Deaths went up 2% this week. Per what you said I should find a "new schtick". However it looks like you are going to be wrong. A new surge is coming.

All our recent progress with Covid-19 could be wiped out by variants, CDC director says. 'Please stay strong'

After weeks of tumbling case numbers, new infections and deaths are on the rise again. Now the US is at risk of losing recent gains in the fight against Covid-19 as highly contagious variants take advantage of Americans getting lax with safety measures.

www.cnn.com

 

[Merge]

I was told repeatedly on this board that I would be wrong about a march spike and the variants causing us to move backwards. It appears we are heading in the direction. Unfortunately it appears I will be right again.

@Merge Kept on telling me we are heading toward of this pandemic. I don't think that's the case.

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And the percent positive in NJ at 6.4% is the lowest it has been in 4 months, and trending downward.

 

[Merge]

Deaths went up 2% this week. Per what you said I should find a "new schtick". However it looks like you are going to be wrong. A new surge is coming.

All our recent progress with Covid-19 could be wiped out by variants, CDC director says. 'Please stay strong'

After weeks of tumbling case numbers, new infections and deaths are on the rise again. Now the US is at risk of losing recent gains in the fight against Covid-19 as highly contagious variants take advantage of Americans getting lax with safety measures.

www.cnn.com

Deaths are a lagging indicator.
Lowest positivity rate and lowest currently hospitalized since October. You do need a new schtick. This is almost over.

 

[shufan1993]

Deaths are a lagging indicator.
Lowest positivity rate and lowest currently hospitalized since October. You do need a new schtick. This is almost over.

So just to confirm. You are 100% disagreeing with the experts/science on the predictions on the next few weeks? Correct?

 

[Merge]

They aren't giving predictions, they are warning people so they take it seriously. It is a campaign to make sure people want to get vaccinated.

While a 2% increase in cases seems like it would not be the direction you want to go... The current 7 day average positivity rate across the country is the lowest it has been since October 14th. Yesterday being the lowest single day since October 5th.

 

[shufan1993]

They aren't giving predictions, they are warning people so they take it seriously. It is a campaign to make sure people want to get vaccinated.

While a 2% increase in cases seems like it would not be the direction you want to go... The current 7 day average positivity rate across the country is the lowest it has been since October 14th. Yesterday being the lowest single day since October 5th.

I thankfully got a ticket for Wednesday night but I have decided not to go. The variant news is getting worse by the day and I unfortunately think their will be some spread of the virus at the game.

 

[Merge]

I'll let Tim Mcloone know to cancel his welcome announcement to the Atlantic County citizen of the year award recipient.

 

[shufan1993]

I'll let Tim Mcloone know to cancel his welcome announcement to the Atlantic County citizen of the year award recipient.

Correction. It is not Atlantic County citizen of the the year. I have won my towns citizen of the year in Atlantic County. Unfortunately no one on this board is willing to research further.

 

[shufan1993]

Hi @Merge. The WHO thinks it "premature" and "unrealistic" to think the pandemic will end at the end of 2021. It more likely appears you will not be posting on the board after Labor day.

WHO: 'Premature,' 'unrealistic' COVID-19 will end soon

GENEVA (AP) — A senior World Health Organization official said Monday it was “premature” and “unrealistic” to think the pandemic might be stopped by the end of the year, but that the recent arrival of effective vaccines could at least help dramatically reduce hospitalizations and death.

apnews.com

 

[Merge]

In the US
Lowest number of daily cases since October 13.
Lowest positivity rate since October 3rd.
Lowest number of hospitalized Covid patients since October 29th.

We vaccinated 40x the number of people who had a positive test result yesterday.

Im not saying it will be eradicated. It won’t be.
what I’m saying is that the vulnerable population will soon be protected and once they are, the restrictions will end shortly after.

 

[shu09]

Im not saying it will be eradicated. It won’t be.
what I’m saying is that the vulnerable population will soon be protected and once they are, the restrictions will end shortly after.

This is correct, but it will be the ultimate reveal regarding whether the restrictions were solely about the virus or used the virus as an excuse for a power grab. If they don't go away....

 

[Merge]

This is correct, but it will be the ultimate reveal regarding whether the restrictions were solely about the virus or used the virus as an excuse for a power grab. If they don't go away....

Sure, I just don't see it happening though... Even assuming all of the motivation was political (which I don't agree with) why wouldn't they want to take credit for defeating the virus? If the hospitalizations and deaths are exceedingly rare, you think Murphy is going to keep restrictions in place for no reason heading into an election?

 

[shufan1993]

Sure, I just don't see it happening though... Even assuming all of the motivation was political (which I don't agree with) why wouldn't they want to take credit for defeating the virus? If the hospitalizations and deaths are exceedingly rare, you think Murphy is going to keep restrictions in place for no reason heading into an election?

Yes I think he could. He will just say this is the "New Normal".

 

[Hallsome]

Sure, I just don't see it happening though... Even assuming all of the motivation was political (which I don't agree with) why wouldn't they want to take credit for defeating the virus? If the hospitalizations and deaths are exceedingly rare, you think Murphy is going to keep restrictions in place for no reason heading into an election?

He will treat the virus in a self serving way. We know this playbook.

 

[Merge]

He will treat the virus in a self serving way. We know this playbook.

That may be true.
Since, you know the play book, can you define what that looks like?

Assume hospitalizations and deaths are very low, the vaccine is effective and everyone who wants to get vaccinated will be vaccinated at some point by the end of June.

What would be the ideal action from a governor as of July 1st?
What do you think Murphy will do that is self serving?