I think just statues of butterflies and flowers should remain. All the rest are offensive.
Charlottesville
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I can't believe you are calling for the removal of the pirate in front of the athletic center. LOL I'm sure that's the first thing the returning students will do. Pirates are bad people. The statue must go.
Definitely a place for art and a place for public monuments.
I don't think there is any real support for getting rid of Columbus, Washington, and Jefferson monuments. Just a few idiots on the news having their voices amplified WAY too loudly. The left needs some leadership on this issue to stop people from getting ultra sensitive to every monument.
Like VICE News, provider of that video you wanted me to watch, who is calling for the destruction of Mount Rushmore?
Exactly. The more the movement attacks every little thing, the more the average Americans say enough is enough.The funny thing is there are many on the right who want to distance themself from Trump, but there will be many on the left who want to distance themselves from these clowns who are picking the wrong fights.
A couple points - The guy who wrote the op ed wasn't involved in the video I posted. I asked you to watch when you refuted that the Nazi's brought guns to Charlotteville. I also thought it was important to watch to understand what is happening in the white supremacist movement.
Now about Vice news:" calling for the destruction of Mount Rushmore"... That's just not true. It was a response to the Daily Caller article "lets Blow up Mount Rusmore"
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9kkkby/lets-get-rid-of-mount-rushmore
It's a thought provoking editorial. One that I don't really agree with, but again - I do not have the perspective of growing up as minority in this country whose ancestors were enslaved. Sure, it is easy to think that I would maintain my same opinions if I were black but I can't say that to any degree of certainty... but he wasn't calling for anything. He was just saying that if it were to happen, he would be in favor of it. You were mislead.
"it seems unthinkable that we will ever see a day when there is a serious push to blow up Rushmore and other monuments like it. But if that moment ever arrives, I suspect I'd be onboard. Demystifying the historical figures of the past, pulling them off the great mountain top back down to Earth where they shat, farted, spit, pissed, ****ed, raped, murdered, died, and rotted seems like important business for this country. As long as we allow those men to be cults of personality who exist beyond reproach, we're never going to be able to see them for all of their good and all of their evil."
No back pedal.
You were told that the Nazi's bringing guns was debunked. It wasn't. Many of them did.
You were told that Vice "called for the destruction of Mount Rushmore" - They didn't.
and you think I'm the one posting leftist propaganda? please...
"Most of the counterdemonstrators were peaceful, but some showed up with semiautomatics of their own and at one point formed a defensive perimeter around a counterdemonstration staging area, according to the New York Times. Other counterdemonstrators wielded baseball bats, clubs, bottles, and chemical sprays."
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/n...lle-leftists-armed-trump-antifa-20170816.html
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/n...lle-leftists-armed-trump-antifa-20170816.html
I never said that none of them showed up armed.
We have all seen the reporting on what took place. We saw the rally the night before with people carrying torches and guns, shouting nazi slogans.
If your criticism has turned towards the people who showed up armed (and significantly less so than the Nazi's) to protest, and ready for a fight against those Nazi's then I think your criticism is misguided.
I never said that you never said that none of them showed up armed.
I posted no criticism. You again put words in my mouth and tossed in an insult that I am misguided.
I simply posted a link that quoted a NY Times article that showed that the Anarchists were armed.
Should I conclude that your comments indicate that you support Anarchy? No I should not because you have not said that....I think.
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Are you referring to this video? -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I
I believe that is the one you posted. I watched it up until the 2:09 mark which is when they show the rally the night before. There were only torches. No guns.
I did see that the one KKK knucklehead at the end of the video tossed guns and a knife on his hotel room bed but I would not say that is enough to make your statement above true. We did not see guns in the evening video.
This post is not intended to defend the KKK protestors. I have and will continue to denounce them.
I posted to show that you make up your own facts.
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