SHU09 you want open society and normalcy again, I do too we just see things from different places, i can not have the trustworthiness of a fellow citizen to have respect for themselves and others. A Vietnam vet called into FAN yesterday said he was stationwd in a combat zone for a year and then in Japan. Came across Vietnamese and Japanese locals at timea with face coveringa this is late 1960s. Asked why they wear that. Oh they have cold or flu and they dont want to spread to surrounding people.
Face Coverings now REQUIRED outdoors in NJ
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But business/economy...health is wealth, having a better chance of more people covid free is what will make economy come back
NY and NJ got hardest hit at the outset and FL is getting hit now. To call the South "failing" is just another one of your dumb comments since the data doesn't even come close to supporting that assertion when deaths/100K are 10X in NY and NJ.
Nor should they be. We have two main levels of government in this country, aka federalism. Federal and state government. Every state has a different problem level when it comes to this issue and should handle accordingly.
Why would NJ / NY be the bar for Florida?
The virus was spreading rapidly in this area before we even knew it was in the country.
It was bad here because it hit here first.
It didn't have to get bad it Florida. It is bad in Florida because they didn't do enough to minimize the spread.
But you believe in the logic that it was inevitable that Florida would get hit. I believe in the fact that covid transmission could have been more controlled with less spread in many of these other states and it has not been.
Yes. It was modeled after SARS. Came from pigs in brazil and kills 65 million people globally after 18 months.
As I said previously in this thread, completely useless data. How about the full picture from above:
Area = Total Deaths, Population, Death Rate%
Florida = 4301, 21400000, 0.02%
Canada = 8773, 37600000, 0.02%
Italy = 34945, 60400000, 0.06%
France = 30004, 66900000, 0.04%
Germany = 9134, 83100000, 0.01%
On the same day they report a whopping 249 hospitalized and 45 deaths.
How come you only ever post the panic porn parts of the data?
I'm not saying Florida could have done things better, but according to the data NY and NJ could have done ALOT of things better to avoid the fatality rates.
I don't see how this is a surprise that it's spreading. It's a virus that does not have a vaccine. The most important thing we can do is limit fatalities by protecting those at highest risk and maintain hospital capacity. That has not changed. If fatalities spike and/or Florida can't handle the hospital surge, then yes, I would agree that they should have done better.
Hi All- remember when I was called and idiot and fear mongering few weeks back when I said a second round of lock downs would occur? I do too.
California is now beginning its second round of lock downs. NY and NJ will be shut down in a few weeks too. Cuomo and Murphy have already been hinting at it today. Hate to say it but I will be spot on again.
California is now beginning its second round of lock downs. NY and NJ will be shut down in a few weeks too. Cuomo and Murphy have already been hinting at it today. Hate to say it but I will be spot on again.
"Governor of Florida Declares Victory Over COVID-19. Then The State Becomes the World Epicenter"
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavi...ers-of-coronavirus-12k-more-cases-monday.html
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavi...ers-of-coronavirus-12k-more-cases-monday.html
Maybe state caught on reporting old deaths without breaking out numbers was misleading....
State health officials reported 27 new confirmed deaths, bringing the total to 13,660 since the outbreak began March 4. Seventeen of the deaths reported Wednesday happened in July, while 10 happened between April 16 and June 3. Hospitals reported 8 new deaths Tuesday, the state said.
