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This will be the only thread on Covid here

Per Webster....a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

Did you get the covid shots? Are you immune?

Thank you for posting the definition if what a vaccine is. The vaccine does everything as described.
 
Yes. That is exactly what these vaccines accomplish.

Unfortunately, you are interpreting the word "immunity" there to mean 100% immunity from infection but that is not an accurate interpretation of what it actually means.
Per webster on immunity....the ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin by the action of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.

Immunity doesn't mean immunity? What a joke.
 
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Per webster on immunity....the ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin by the action of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.

Yep. These vaccines do that.

Immunity doesn't mean immunity? What a joke.

Nope. No vaccine provides 100% certainty that you are immune to an infectious agent.
 
@HALL85 saw your post earlier about the blood oxygen monitor at home and why wasn’t it part of messaging. First off hope your feeling better. And i have a family member who is a physician and this topic actually came up with him a few weeks ago. He said basically the monitors that people get. Even the ones in the new Apple Watch or whoop band or one you’d buy on Amazon they’re great. But their just not accurate. He said basically there’s nothing he can do with the information you’d get from them. So unless your shelling out $750-$1000 for a hospital grade pulse oximeter it’s more than likely going to cause unnecessary stress with inaccurate reading but if it’s something that makes you feel comfortable then on obviously go for it but I would guess that’s why it’s not recommended
 
Per Webster....a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

Did you get the covid shots? Are you immune?
bro stop this is embarassing. this has been a dead end for you for days. youre wrong.
 
Despite your sarcasm, neither of those vaccines is 100% effective. I guess we dont have immunity from them?

Great more "vaccines" that don't work. If a "vaccine" doesn't work is it really a vaccine? Or just some gimmick to make big Pharma more money.
 
Great more "vaccines" that don't work. If a "vaccine" doesn't work is it really a vaccine? Or just some gimmick to make big Pharma more money.

Lol. So, should we no longer vaccinate for measles and mumps since they're not 100% effective?
 
@HALL85 saw your post earlier about the blood oxygen monitor at home and why wasn’t it part of messaging. First off hope your feeling better. And i have a family member who is a physician and this topic actually came up with him a few weeks ago. He said basically the monitors that people get. Even the ones in the new Apple Watch or whoop band or one you’d buy on Amazon they’re great. But their just not accurate. He said basically there’s nothing he can do with the information you’d get from them. So unless your shelling out $750-$1000 for a hospital grade pulse oximeter it’s more than likely going to cause unnecessary stress with inaccurate reading but if it’s something that makes you feel comfortable then on obviously go for it but I would guess that’s why it’s not recommended
I have to respectfully disagree. The pulse oximeters and directionally accurate. My physician (and others) have said that it's a very important device to have in the home especially with this virus. If you are consistently getting readings in the 80's (after being above 95), that's a red flag and my doctor told me to call him. Also, especially in the early stages of COVID, you could have been walking around with an undetected pneumonia for several days before breathing difficulty started. Pulse ox monitoring would have picked that up.
 
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I have to respectfully disagree. The pulse oximeters and directionally accurate. My physician (and others) have said that it's a very important device to have in the home especially with this virus. If you are consistently getting readings in the 80's (after being above 95), that's a red flag and my doctor told me to call him. Also, especially in the early stages of COVID, you could have been walking around with an undetected pneumonia for several days before breathing difficulty started. Pulse ox monitoring would have picked that up.
100%. My son has BPD and his pulmonologist absolutely stands by home monitoring. Those $30-50 devices are a good indicator of stress on the body.
 
COVID is spreading like crazy. I am fully vaccinated but have had a minor off and on headache and sneezing for a few days. I have bad seasonal allergies so I didn't think too much of it since I had burning eyes too. Just got a call last night that I was a close contact of a confirmed positive case so I got PCR tested this morning. I am expecting the test result to be positive. Looking back I would not be surprised if I have had the omicron variant for a while considering it is spreading all over the area now. In reading about it the most common symptoms do appear to be headache, cough, sneezing, runny nose, etc. - basically regular cold symptoms. Fortunately I feel fine and honestly would not have thought anything of it, had I not been confirmed exposed and had we not had these major spikes of cases. At my office there are tons of people out sick/getting tested. Probably most of the people in the office.
 
Guys, I think this is enough for a basketball/sports board. Later today this thread will go to LOTS.

From there I will ask everyone to post these kind of responses on that board and not here. I am going to take a harder stance on these posts appearing on this board.
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you’ll never control the flow on here and LOTS is there if someone wants to use it.
 
Lol. So, should we no longer vaccinate for measles and mumps since they're not 100% effective?
The question becomes are people not getting the diseases because of the vaccine or because they're just not getting it. Plenty of people go through flu season without getting the flu and with no flu shot. I would love to know how many people are really being saved from the shots for measles and mumps. You're operating under the assumption anyone who didn't get the measles and mumps and got the shot were saved because of the shot. That's simply false. And if 94% of cases are breakthrough cases what do the numbers look like if we look at breakthrough cases vs what was saved based on the shot.
 
The question becomes are people not getting the diseases because of the vaccine or because they're just not getting it. Plenty of people go through flu season without getting the flu and with no flu shot. I would love to know how many people are really being saved from the shots for measles and mumps. You're operating under the assumption anyone who didn't get the measles and mumps and got the shot were saved because of the shot. That's simply false. And if 94% of cases are breakthrough cases what do the numbers look like if we look at breakthrough cases vs what was saved based on the shot.

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As an extraordinarily contagious disease, measles requires a vaccination rate of around 95 percent to achieve herd immunity—the point at which the disease won’t circulate through the population freely. In 1978, after the year before the first dose of the measles vaccine was introduced in Romania, 540 out of every 100,000 people contracted measles. By the turn of the millennium, child vaccinations had hit 96 percent and incidence in Romania had reduced to 0.16 per 100,000 people—a tremendous accomplishment by any standard.
 
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The point of a vaccine is to provoke an immune response to create antibodies to protect you against a specific infectious agent. That is exactly what these vaccines do.

It is not to create 100%-80%-60% immunity against infection, or any arbitrary threshold you want to pretend is there to meet your personal definition... Chickenpox vaccines are not 100%, flu vaccines are not remotely close to 100% etc.

You're arguing against a definition because you don't know what the words mean.
You are arguing against yourself. The point of a "vaccine" is to provoke an immune response to a specific infections agent. These MRNA DRUGS are only targeting 1 spike protein in the virus. that is why the are so leaky. The virus has other ways of attacking which they do not address. The risk benefit of these drugs does not justify your right to make your own decision being taken away. The OMICRON variant is so mild it will likely get us to heard immunity if we allow it to instead of creating another booster to cause another mutation.
 
You are arguing against yourself. The point of a "vaccine" is to provoke an immune response to a specific infections agent. These MRNA DRUGS are only targeting 1 spike protein in the virus. that is why the are so leaky. The virus has other ways of attacking which they do not address. .

Again, I provided a study which showed that the mRNA was able to adapt to mutations within the spike protein.

What are the "other ways" in which you speak? My understanding is that the spike protein is why the virus is able to bind to the ACE2 receptors and without it, would not be able to infect us which is why the vaccines were designed to recognize the spike protein in the first place... but if you have some actual study showing why you are correct here, I am all ears.

The risk benefit of these drugs does not justify your right to make your own decision being taken away.

I agree that it should not be mandated anywhere outside of a healthcare setting.

The OMICRON variant is so mild it will likely get us to heard immunity if we allow it to instead of creating another booster to cause another mutation.

It does appear to be mild so far.
Vaccines do not cause mutations.
 
The latest from the Garden State. If we are above 6,000 cases tomorrow, this will be the worst 7 days in the Garden State since the pandemic began. I just laugh to myself when posters thought this pandemic would be over by June 2021.

 
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The latest from the Garden State. If we are above 6,000 cases tomorrow, this will be the worst 7 days in the Garden State since the pandemic began. I just laugh to myself when posters thought this pandemic would be over by June 2021.



Glad you find it funny.
 
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Glad you find it funny.

I find it funny because so many posters were saying I would be wrong about this pandemic. They insisted the pandemic would be over in Summer of 2021 because the vaccines would save the day. That was flawed thinking. This pandemic is here to stay for several years.
 
I find it funny because so many posters were saying I would be wrong about this pandemic. They insisted the pandemic would be over in Summer of 2021 because the vaccines would save the day. That was flawed thinking. This pandemic is here to stay for several years.

I realistically think we don't get out of this pandemic in the United States until at least 2025. Until then further variants will wreck any progress we made. I think that's the best case scenario to be honest. Just not enough people to jabs when they needed too.
 
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I realistically think we don't get out of this pandemic in the United States until at least 2025. Until then further variants will wreck any progress we made. I think that's the best case scenario to be honest. Just not enough people to jabs when they needed too.

This timeline could change to a sooner end date if the fed government finally stands up and makes a universal covid vaccine mandate for everyone. But I'm not holding my breath for that.
 
Some people on this board obviously need to get a hobby instead of arguing with each other about this stuff all day in an attempt to try to prove themselves right
 
Some people on this board obviously need to get a hobby instead of arguing with each other about this stuff all day in an attempt to try to prove themselves right

Why? I was right. This pandemic isn't ending anytime soon? Do you think it will end soon?
 
Why? I was right. This pandemic isn't ending anytime soon? Do you think it will end soon?
You are such a nut job and filled with self arrogance that you really think I was specifically talking about you?? I also have no interest in starting a back and forth with you also.
 
Skepticism is good, but he pushes conspiracies. Says for example that the government intentionally withheld Covid treatment in order to vaccinate the population.

Literally the definition of conspiracy.

in things he was wrong about, For example there were many scientific studies showing that asymptomatic transmission was prevalent, and he went out saying that there wasn’t any.
The definition of conspiracy requires an agreement bookeeper. What agreement are you alleging ?
 
The definition of conspiracy requires an agreement bookeeper. What agreement are you alleging ?

Not sure why you can't follow along, but the conspiracy theory we were talking about here was that Peter Mccullough said that health officials intentionally withheld treatments for Covid in order to spread fear among the population and push the public to take a vaccine.

That is a conspiracy theory.
 
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