This will be the only thread on Covid here

[shufan1993]

Senator Karen - fully vaccinated and boosted - COVID 19 POSITIVE

Sens. Cory Booker and Elizabeth Warren test positive for Covid

Both Democrats attributed their mild symptoms to being fully vaccinated and getting booster shots.

www.yahoo.com

You seem like a nice person, mocking and name calling someone because they tested positive for the virus. I don't agree with her politics either but I would not stoop down to the level you went. Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones.

 

[shu09]

Only a matter of time before Biden gets it and the media goes crazy with panic. Mandates and entry requirements do not prevent spread. They are simply discriminatory practices.

 

[HALL85]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cory-booker-tests-positive-for-covid-19

Sparticus testing positive too

 

[flconticello]

How can your friend confirm this if this was fake news?

Says who? You?

 

[Merge]

You totally missed or ignored my point. What about the messaging to the vaccinated? Do they not matter once they’ve been vaccinated? Vaccinated people are being hospitalized more and more each day they’ve already taken the presidents advice. That’s

Not even sure what you’re talking about there. It isn’t get vaccinated and then nothing.

The messaging is to get vaccinated, if you were exposed get tested, if your positive, stay home, if symptoms start, seek medical care.

 

[flconticello]

That's literal fake news lol -- https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/..._Retirement_CDC_2019_Novel_Coronavirus_1.html

That's the full explanation of withdrawing one specific CDC-made PCR test:

Does the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel confuse influenza with SARS-CoV-2?

No. The CDC 2019-nCoV Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel does not confuse influenza with SARS-CoV-2. It is a highly accurate test that detects the presence or absence of SARS-CoV-2 viral genetic material within a patient specimen.

Does the retirement of this test apply to all RT-PCR-based tests or all SARS-CoV-2 tests that have received Emergency Use Authorization from FDA?

No. The discontinuation of Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) only applies to the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel test. It does not affect any other SARS-CoV-2 test that has received EUA from FDA.

Is CDC retiring the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel because it has produced inaccurate results?

No. There are no performance concerns with this test. The CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel is a highly accurate test. It has been used to successfully detect SARS-CoV-2 since February 2020.

Since the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel continues to perform well, CDC will continue to make the design of the primers and probes used in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel publicly available on the CDC website. Laboratories and test developers are free to use the design in their own research or diagnostic test.

CDC will also continue to extend Right of Reference to anyone who wishes to reference the data in CDC’s Emergency Use Authorization (EUA 200001) to support their own regulatory submission to FDA. The retirement of the test and the discontinuation of the associated EUA will have no impact on the availability of the design or Right of Reference. The CDC submission will remain on file at FDA.

And the bureaucracy never lies and sends out misinformation. If you think people trust the CDC or lord Faucci you’re crazy. Faucci has the most reason to lie. He funded the development of this virus. He did it despite even Obama ordering him to stop. At least publicly. You calling the article I cited is exactly what they want. Try finding the article on Google. You won’t because it’s been censored. Have to use alternate search engine.

 

[flconticello]

My friend just got a PCR test yesterday in Jersey. This is not true.

The new tests do differentiate. Not the original ones. That’s what the numbers are based on.

 

[Merge]

Based on your bizarre definition of level of immunity what's the difference between supplements that provide protection? Can I go to GNC and buy items that prevent disease and call them vaccines? I saw anti cancer supplements on the shelf the other day. I'm sure they provide some level of protection and immunity.

The difference is that a vaccine creates an immune response to create antibodies for a specific virus. If you are exposed, your body will have a targeted response. You may be able to prevent infection entirely depending on the level of antibodies and depending on how the virus interacts with your body or your body will be better prepared to fight the infection.

That is what a vaccine is. That is what theses vaccines do.

 

[HALL85]

Not even sure what you’re talking about there. It isn’t get vaccinated and then nothing.

The messaging is to get vaccinated, if you were exposed get tested, if your positive, stay home, if symptoms start, seek medical care.

No it hasn’t

 

[SHUSA]

That's literal fake news lol -- https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/..._Retirement_CDC_2019_Novel_Coronavirus_1.html

That's the full explanation of withdrawing one specific CDC-made PCR test:

Does the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel confuse influenza with SARS-CoV-2?

No. The CDC 2019-nCoV Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel does not confuse influenza with SARS-CoV-2. It is a highly accurate test that detects the presence or absence of SARS-CoV-2 viral genetic material within a patient specimen.

Does the retirement of this test apply to all RT-PCR-based tests or all SARS-CoV-2 tests that have received Emergency Use Authorization from FDA?

No. The discontinuation of Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) only applies to the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel test. It does not affect any other SARS-CoV-2 test that has received EUA from FDA.

Is CDC retiring the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel because it has produced inaccurate results?

No. There are no performance concerns with this test. The CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel is a highly accurate test. It has been used to successfully detect SARS-CoV-2 since February 2020.

Since the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel continues to perform well, CDC will continue to make the design of the primers and probes used in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel publicly available on the CDC website. Laboratories and test developers are free to use the design in their own research or diagnostic test.

CDC will also continue to extend Right of Reference to anyone who wishes to reference the data in CDC’s Emergency Use Authorization (EUA 200001) to support their own regulatory submission to FDA. The retirement of the test and the discontinuation of the associated EUA will have no impact on the availability of the design or Right of Reference. The CDC submission will remain on file at FDA.

yea i feel like if the everyday pcr test we all get from CVS turned out to be usless it would be reported everywhere. that would be the wizard of oz moment on this whole pandemic.

would love if anyone can explain whats going on in laymens terms

 

[Merge]

No it hasn’t

I’ve seen it from public health officials talking about what to do if you have been around someone who was j vectors or start to feel sick…

also..

COVID-19 and Your Health

Symptoms, testing, what to do if sick, daily activities, and more.

www.cdc.gov

 

[flconticello]

The difference is that a vaccine creates an immune response to create antibodies for a specific virus. If you are exposed, your body will have a targeted response. You may be able to prevent infection entirely depending on the level of antibodies and depending on how the virus interacts with your body or your body will be better prepared to fight the infection.

That is what a vaccine is. That is what theses vaccines do.

Wrong. These “vaccines” target 1 specific spike protein. They do not provoke a complete immune response. That’s why they don’t work. Natural immunity is the only thing that truly works.

 

[radecicco]

Its truly amazing how many immunologists, epidemiologists, medical researchers, geneticists, microbiologists we have on Pirates Hoops Chat. Who knew!

 

[HALL85]

I’ve seen it from public health officials talking about what to do if you have been around someone who was j vectors or start to feel sick…

also..

COVID-19 and Your Health

Symptoms, testing, what to do if sick, daily activities, and more.

www.cdc.gov

What politician has promoted that? We could have saved tens, hundreds of thousands of lives if people got earlier intervention advice, before and after vaccine roll out

 

[walshtrips]

You seem like a nice person, mocking and name calling someone because they tested positive for the virus. I don't agree with her politics either but I would not stoop down to the level you went. Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones.

CHEER UP!!! I'm not mocking her because she got COVID. I am mocking her for her lack of knowledge on taxation in the US and attacking Elon Musk for "freeloading" and not paying taxes.

 

[Merge]

What politician has promoted that? We could have saved tens, hundreds of thousands of lives if people got earlier intervention advice, before and after vaccine roll

You need politicians to tell you to call your doctor when you feel sick and to get tested? You can’t be serious here. As if someone is going to call their doctor because Cory Booker said so. Come on..

I have just seen that as a part of the messaging many times when listening to public health officials, and it’s on the CDC site for what to do.

 

[Merge]

Wrong. These “vaccines” target 1 specific spike protein. They do not provoke a complete immune response. That’s why they don’t work. Natural immunity is the only thing that truly works.

a “complete immune response” lol… where do people come up with this crap?

 

[lokiSHU]

And the bureaucracy never lies and sends out misinformation. If you think people trust the CDC or lord Faucci you’re crazy. Faucci has the most reason to lie. He funded the development of this virus. He did it despite even Obama ordering him to stop. At least publicly. You calling the article I cited is exactly what they want. Try finding the article on Google. You won’t because it’s been censored. Have to use alternate search engine.

Outgoing NIH director implores Fox News viewers to stay focused on the real 'enemy'

The virus is the enemy, NIH Director Francis Collins said. "It's not the other people in the other political party." Omicron, which could soon become the dominant strain, is extremely infectious.

www.npr.org

 

[Burnsly]

What's even crazier is they actually think they convince someone to change their mindset.

 

[flconticello]

Outgoing NIH director implores Fox News viewers to stay focused on the real 'enemy'

The virus is the enemy, NIH Director Francis Collins said. "It's not the other people in the other political party." Omicron, which could soon become the dominant strain, is extremely infectious.

www.npr.org

What’s your point? This world be at the top of the Google search algorithm. It fits their narrative.

 

[flconticello]

a “complete immune response” lol… where do people come up with this crap?

It’s called science and facts. Try looking it up.

 

[Merge]

It’s called science and facts. Try looking it up.

It’s not science, not facts. You are either repeating something you heard without understanding what they were saying, or you are just making stuff up.

You don’t have any evidence that natural immunity would provide a more “complete” immune response. In fact , here is a study showing the opposite.

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

“vaccination-elicited antibodies targeted a broader range of epitopes within the RBD than infection-elicited antibodies.”

 

[chickenbox]

98% of doctors, scientists, politicians, researchers, reporters, and health care workers are dopey charlatans with ulterior motives who are lying to you about covid. You need to STOP listening to them and START doing your own research!

But if you don't have time for that, here are some links to videos, podcasts, and Facebook posts from smart people who know the truth about what's really going on and don't have incentives to propagate misinformation. They're revealing things the elites don't want you to know that you should share on social media and sports message boards.

 

[sami]

98% of doctors, scientists, politicians, researchers, reporters, and health care workers are dopey charlatans with ulterior motives who are lying to you about covid. You need to STOP listening to them and START doing your own research!

But if you don't have time for that, here are some links to videos, podcasts, and Facebook posts from smart people who know the truth about what's really going on and don't have incentives to propagate misinformation. They're revealing things the elites don't want you to know that you should share on social media and sports message boards.

Now you got it.

 

[HALL85]

You need politicians to tell you to call your doctor when you feel sick and to get tested? You can’t be serious here. As if someone is going to call their doctor because Cory Booker said so. Come on..

I have just seen that as a part of the messaging many times when listening to public health officials, and it’s on the CDC site for what to do.

You’ve ignored all of the points I’ve made previously. There is so much that can be advised beyond “get vaccinated” that would keep people out of the hospital…vaccinated and unvaccinated. You think Biden will say anything else except "get vaccinated" tomorrow night?

The MSM and politicians have done a piss-poor job of messaging. It's all about creating divisiveness and politics. They really don't care about the public's health.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

What’s your point? This world be at the top of the Google search algorithm. It fits their narrative.

The big scary Google search algorithm. Sad.

 

[HallB]

Interesting study. https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/...7TKvWFLCzTlYKpMbBLIQTlDv5A3euJg3JmVxXPfZvcoaA

 

[flconticello]

The big scary Google search algorithm. Sad.

What’s sad are the sheeple

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

What’s sad are the sheeple

Another topic you should become educated on-

Search Engine Optimization ✅

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

The difference is that a vaccine creates an immune response to create antibodies for a specific virus. If you are exposed, your body will have a targeted response. You may be able to prevent infection entirely depending on the level of antibodies and depending on how the virus interacts with your body or your body will be better prepared to fight the infection.

That is what a vaccine is. That is what theses vaccines do.

The whole point is a vaccine results in immunity, not some level of protection. You want to grade the levels and what you feel is an acceptable level of protection, but that's not the definition of a vaccine.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

The whole point is a vaccine results in immunity, not some level of protection. You want to grade the levels and what you feel is an acceptable level of protection, but that's not the definition of a vaccine.

The flu vaccine does not grant 100% immunity, in fact this year it appears it could be only 23% effective. Are you going to argue that's not a vaccine either?

 

[Merge]

You’ve ignored all of the points I’ve made previously. There is so much that can be advised beyond “get vaccinated” that would keep people out of the hospital…vaccinated and unvaccinated. You think Biden will say anything else except "get vaccinated" tomorrow night?

The MSM and politicians have done a piss-poor job of messaging. It's all about creating divisiveness and politics. They really don't care about the public's health.

I haven't ignored your points. I've responded to them and we have a difference of opinion.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

The flu vaccine does not grant 100% immunity, in fact this year it appears it could be only 23% effective. Are you going to argue that's not a vaccine either?

Yes. It's not a vaccine by definition. You want to call it a preventative measure. Go right ahead. You are not immune to the flu from a flu shot. I have just as much chance of getting the flu with a flu shot as I do taking vitamin C and vitamin D supplements daily.

 

[flconticello]

Another topic you should become educated on-

Search Engine Optimization ✅

Lucky you haven't committed a crime because ignorance isn't a defense.

Google admitted it controls the algorithm and is removing "disinformation". Nothing to do with optimization to get your website to the top of a search.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Yes. It's not a vaccine by definition. You want to call it a preventative measure. Go right ahead. You are not immune to the flu from a flu shot. I have just as much chance of getting the flu with a flu shot as I do taking vitamin C and vitamin D supplements daily.

By whose definition? Yours?

Its the Influenza Vaccine.

 

[flconticello]

By whose definition? Yours?

Its the Influenza Vaccine.

Yep that is what you call it. Doesn't mean it lives up to its definition since it's only effective 30% of the time on average. By the way it's been know as your flu shot for years. It wasn't until now that they are pushing the word vaccine.

Redirect Notice

 

[Merge]

The whole point is a vaccine results in immunity, not some level of protection.

The point of a vaccine is to provoke an immune response to create antibodies to protect you against a specific infectious agent. That is exactly what these vaccines do.

It is not to create 100%-80%-60% immunity against infection, or any arbitrary threshold you want to pretend is there to meet your personal definition... Chickenpox vaccines are not 100%, flu vaccines are not remotely close to 100% etc.

You're arguing against a definition because you don't know what the words mean.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

By whose definition? Yours?

Its the Influenza Vaccine.

Per Webster....a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

Did you get the covid shots? Are you immune?

 

[HALL85]

I haven't ignored your points. I've responded to them and we have a difference of opinion.

Yes you have, but that's your way of dancing around the topic. And we obviously do have a difference of opinion and I'm cool with that.

 

[Merge]

Per Webster....a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

Yes. That is exactly what these vaccines accomplish.

Unfortunately, you are interpreting the word "immunity" there to mean 100% immunity from infection but that is not an accurate interpretation of what it actually means.