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Awfully quiet on here from certain people after the receipts got dropped.

Here we go, now they didnt do it soon enough. Always something.
Why is that odd? As information comes out, additional questions arise. No one knew about nuclear classified info (if true) until yesterday.

I do find it curious that a whistleblower possibly sat on this for a year and a half and comes forward right before the midterms.
 
If he’s got stuff for 20 months with nuclear classified info then we should know why and how they let that happen and why they went in 3 days after they got the warrant. Great comment hopefully the DOJ/FBI didn’t put our country at risk by waiting. Either they put us at risk or Trump doesn’t have the stuff they think he has. Either way not a good look for them.

Yes. We should know why Trump took top secret information there. We should know why he didn’t give it back in February when asked. We should know why he did not comply with the subpoena issues in June. We should get an understanding of how sensitive the information was. We should get an understanding of who, if anyone, had accessed these documents.

While I appreciate your concern over those 3 days they waited. No, they aren’t putting the country at risk. It’s not uncommon for the FBI to time things like that based on a risk assessment. If they had a reason to believe there was a risk the information would have been shared or destroyed in those 3 days, they would not have waited.

Saying it’s not a good look for them is just buying into partisan spin. If you know anyone who works or has worked for the FBI, talk to them about it.
 
Why is that odd? As information comes out, additional questions arise. No one knew about nuclear classified info (if true) until yesterday.

I do find it curious that a whistleblower possibly sat on this for a year and a half and comes forward right before the midterms.

Another conspiracy theory from you? Remember back when you hated those? Two in one thread now? Too funny.

No reason to think someone sat on anything at this point. Grand Jury subpoena was issued in June. Had Trump complied and not kept top secret documents, there would have been no raid. We would not even know he kept the documents in the first place… there would be no political timing angle here if not for Trump. You realize that, right?
 
Another conspiracy theory from you? Remember back when you hated those? Two in one thread now? Too funny.

No reason to think someone sat on anything at this point. Grand Jury subpoena was issued in June. Had Trump complied and not kept top secret documents, there would have been no raid. We would not even know he kept the documents in the first place… there would be no political timing angle here if not for Trump. You realize that, right?
Lol… you will always be the master of conspiracy theories…

I guess you missed the word “possibly”. If you don’t think there is potential timing considerations for a whistleblower to come forward you are naïve.
 
Until we know exactly what the documents are, suggesting they are nuclear related is speculation. It is possible, but at present, it is speculation. Citing an unverified CNN "report" does not constitute a factual finding.

The warrant states among other things that they were looking for things related to "national defense".

Here is a link to the warrant including the receipts from the seizure.

 
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Lol… you will always be the master of conspiracy theories…

I guess you missed the word “possibly”. If you don’t think there is potential timing considerations for a whistleblower to come forward you are naïve.

It’s an absurd suggestion.

The public would have never known this happened if Trump honored the subpoena. We would not have known the FBI was even there last week if Trump himself didn’t talk about it.

the timing of this would have stated months ago. Trying to tie this into having a political angle for the midterms is just a pathetic attempt to place blame anywhere other than exactly where it belongs.
 
Until we know exactly what the documents are, suggesting they are nuclear related is speculation. It is possible, but at present, it is speculation. Citing an unverified CNN "report" does not constitute a factual finding.

The warrant states among other things that they were looking for things related to "national defense".

Here is a link to the warrant including the receipts from the seizure.


Yep.. top secret documents at best is all we know so far.

We were talking about nuclear secrets here because if that reporting were true, a few people here still didn’t care.
 
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We were talking about nuclear secrets here because if that reporting were true, a few people here still didn’t care.

Perhaps more accurate to say that you were talking about it because you began the discussion by citing unverified reports and rumors?

That notwithstanding, keep in mind that all the former presidents (except Trump; because Biden won't allow it for Trump) receive security briefings. Depending on the content and medium of the briefings, it is possible that they all have Top Secret documents stored at their residences. Assuming these documents are properly stored, I don't view that as a threat to national security.

Regarding Mar-a-Lago, I am going to keep my powder dry as far as any conclusions go. There are too many moving parts to this.
 
Perhaps more accurate to say that you were talking about it because you began the discussion by citing unverified reports and rumors?

And started by saying “if true”…

That notwithstanding, keep in mind that all the former presidents (except Trump; because Biden won't allow it for Trump) receive security briefings. Depending on the content and medium of the briefings, it is possible that they all have Top Secret documents stored at their residences. Assuming these documents are properly stored, I don't view that as a threat to national security.

Regarding Mar-a-Lago, I am going to keep my powder dry as far as any conclusions go. There are too many moving parts to this.

All have top secret documents stored? I don’t know about that… but even if true, how many did not comply with a subpoena to return the documents?

Top secret docs would require storage at an approved facility constant surveillance and intrusion detection…so no… these files were not properly stored.
 
Are you saying the lights, sirens, and AR-15s at the gate would have gone unnoticed?

There were police outside.

Did you see any reporting about the FBI being there acting on a warrant prior to Trump telling everyone?
The FBI even wore plain cloths which was a step to keep this quiet.
They didn’t want this to be a spectacle. Trump did.
 
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Awfully quiet on here from certain people after the receipts got dropped.

Here we go, now they didnt do it soon enough. Always something.
It's kind of like how you've been quiet for a month since I posted that asphault can put as much toxins in the air than cars.
 
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Please stop. I try not to mention Trump only when calling out the Hate Trumpers like yourself or when I stated that I hope he doesn't run again. YOU, my fellow poster, are posing a false equivilence or false parallel... whatever you choose to call it... you are dead wrong in your assessment.

You like to put words in other posters' mouths. It doesn't upset me. Just makes me wonder.
It’s the way he was trained to debate and get his point across by assuming everyone falls into a certain category. Pathetic and sad.
 
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There were police outside.

Did you see any reporting about the FBI being there acting on a warrant prior to Trump telling everyone?
The FBI even wore plain cloths which was a step to keep this quiet.
They didn’t want this to be a spectacle. Trump did.
Depends where you get your opinion/news from. Honestly it’s funny to listen to 4 or 5 news reports. They are all different, don’t think anyone knows the complete story. If he is not indicted and is allowed to run, people will know they were once again fooled by the people with the makeup lying. At what point do people realize the news is playing them. After2 times, 5 times, 8 times or never? They are so good at what they do, suck people in every time with same BS.
 
There were police outside.

Did you see any reporting about the FBI being there acting on a warrant prior to Trump telling everyone?
The FBI even wore plain cloths which was a step to keep this quiet.
They didn’t want this to be a spectacle. Trump did.

I know you are smarter than this post. I am disappointed

Can you seriously think that sirens, lights, and AR-15s at Trumps house would not raise question by the media? Are you truly blaming Trump for this going public?
 
The FBI even wore plain cloths which was a step to keep this quiet.

Plus they all wore Groucho Marx disguises.

You have really gone off the deep end.



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The FBI and DOJ obtained a search warrant and had a judge/magistrate sign off on it because they demonstrated probable cause that a crime/crimes have been committed and evidence of such could be found in Trump’s possession.

That is how it works, regardless of whether it is you, me, an ex-president or the Dali Lama
 
I know you are smarter than this post. I am disappointed

Can you seriously think that sirens, lights, and AR-15s at Trumps house would not raise question by the media? Are you truly blaming Trump for this going public?

Questions? Yes.
ANSWERS? No.

Again, no one knew what was going on until Trump told us.
We also didn’t know about the subpoena in June. They would not have needed a warrant if he complied. He didn’t.
 
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Again, no one knew what was going on until Trump told us.

AGAIN, YOU SERIOUSLY THINK THIS WOULD HAVE STAYED A SECRET?

YOU SERIOUSLY THINK TRUMP SHOULD HAVE JUST KEPT QUIET KNOWING HIS HOME WAS SWARMED BY 30 ARMED AGENTS?
 
This week’s FBI search of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort came two months after his attorneys cooperated with a grand jury subpoena, turning over additional documents to federal investigators at the estate, multiple outlets reported Thursday.

CNN reported that the subpoena was issued shortly before an early June meeting, during which Justice Department officials were shown the basement storage room where boxes of documents and other memorabilia from Trump’s four years in the White House were reportedly kept. The outlet added that the 45th president’s attorneys handed over all documents that were marked “top secret.”

CNN and the Wall Street Journal reported that Trump greeted the agents at the start of the meeting, with the Journal quoting him as saying: “I appreciate the job you’re doing” and adding: “Anything you need, let us know.”

The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday that Jay Bratt, the Justice Department’s counterintelligence chief, made a written request June 8 — five days after the initial meeting — for a stronger lock on the basement door, signing his note: “Thank you.” A source told the paper that a new lock was put in place the next day.

At some point in the following days, according to the outlet, investigators received a tip that there may be additional classified documents at the resort.

On June 22, the Journal reported, the Trump Organization received a subpoena for security camera footage from Mar-a-Lago, which was turned over.

That was the last major development on the case until Monday’s raid, when plainclothes FBI agents removed approximately a dozen boxes of documents and other materials after searching locations including a bedroom, a safe, and former first lady Melania Trump’s closet.

 
So now you are reading minds.

Yes I did know that. They collected 15 boxes. And your point is.......?

No. You didn’t know a subpoena was acted on and they collected 15 boxes IN JUNE. You learned about it in August, just like everyone else.

It was kept quite because blabbermouth didn’t go blabbing about it.

This could have been the same. Yes, there would have been people wondering what was going on, but there would have been ZERO indication that this was an FBI raid acting on a warrant issued by the DOJ.
 
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No. You didn’t know a subpoena was acted on and they collected 15 boxes IN JUNE. You learned about it in August, just like everyone else.

It was kept quite because blabbermouth didn’t go blabbing about it.

This could have been the same. Yes, there would have been people wondering what was going on, but there would have been ZERO indication that this was an FBI raid acting on a warrant issued by the DOJ.
I like blabbermouth (Ralph Kramden)That's a new one to add to my trump lines !
 
there would have been ZERO indication that this was an FBI raid acting on a warrant issued by the DOJ.
You seriously think all the people that were present on the property as in the workers would not have said anything to anyone?
 
Did trump lawyer really tell the DOJ there were no classified documents remaining at Mara Logo ,if so had Trump removed the classified label before he left office as is being reported.? Who is the informant .I hope it is not a secret service agent because that will smack of big brother.
 
It's kind of like how you've been quiet for a month since I posted that asphault can put as much toxins in the air than cars.

HAHAHAH nice try, you didnt share that asphalt produces as much Co2 as cars at all. You shared that asphalt does release some CO2, but its not even close to the amount cars does though.

I couldnt respond any longer to your stupid posts. Next.
 
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You seriously think all the people that were present on the property as in the workers would not have said anything to anyone?

Well, considering the fact that they took 15 boxes in June and we had no idea that happened, yes, it’s a reasonable assumption that we wouldn’t have known anything other than the fact that there were police there and we don’t know why.
 
It's kind of like how you've been quiet for a month since I posted that asphault can put as much toxins in the air than cars.


up to 8% is just concrete. Only 60% of Interstate highways are concrete. One more time up to 8% for JUST concrete. Asphalt also contributes to roads. What if asphalt gives off equal emissions as concerete. When all said and done roads could contribute 15%. That's not immaterial to the coversation. So i have to wonder why aren’t roads part of the big picture conversation? Is the conversation about doing what's best for the planet or only worrying about the biggest CO2 emissions? Or maybe we only care about the biggest. If we only worry about the biggest, the USA doesn't even have to be part of this because we should only worry about the biggest pollution country in the world China. I'll counter your which is bigger question with China or the USA when it comes to pollution? Or do we pick and choose when we want to worry about which is a bigger contributor to the problem?

interesting read on asphalt


For your reference-

You took the liberty to go from 8% to 15% with a number of what ifs (your specialty), while ignoring cars + trucks produce 29%.

15% is as much as 29%?

HAHAHAH.
 
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Have some more cheerios and a drink from your sippy cup.

If and when you have something intelligent to say, report back to me.
"Moooom, Pirata's being mean being mean to me!"
Mom: " Get over yourself. You know how sensitive he is. Fortunately, his bootlickee was right there to give him a big man hug"
 
The guy literally lied in one of his first responses to the raid saying Obama took control of lots secure docs when he left office.

Why the hell are you believing them about anything?

They (being him or any of his cronies) lie all the time, you give him the benefit of the doubt but not the FBI and DOJ. You guys are nuts. Cult is going strong. What will it take to lose faith in the guy?

Aren’t you worried at all about what he has or could do with our nations top secret info?
 
For your reference-

You took the liberty to go from 8% to 15% with a number of what ifs (your specialty), while ignoring cars + trucks produce 29%.

15% is as much as 29%?

HAHAHAH.
Try reading the link I posted but yeah make up your own story.
 
"Moooom, Pirata's being mean being mean to me!"
Mom: " Get over yourself. You know how sensitive he is. Fortunately, his bootlickee was right there to give him a big man hug"

Still nothing intelligent to say. So sad.
 
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