Moderna vaccine induced antibodies in all trial participants: paper
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Another good point here. Just imagine if we had a truly deadly disease circulating the globe (you know, more than a 0.5% IFR). Society would break down completely.
The panic caused by the media and politicians around this virus is what happens when you soften the society and make people mentally weak over decades. They can't handle any adversity. And it's a vicious cycle that repeats and gets worse.
The panic caused by the media and politicians around this virus is what happens when you soften the society and make people mentally weak over decades. They can't handle any adversity. And it's a vicious cycle that repeats and gets worse.
Data shows Texas, South Carolina, Georgia and Arizona have peaked. Florida appears to be peaking now or within the next day or two. California is in a similar boat, maybe a bit behind Florida.
These outbreaks will burn out by the end of August, if not sooner. By September, most of these areas will be where NJ and NY were in June with minimal numbers of cases.
These outbreaks will burn out by the end of August, if not sooner. By September, most of these areas will be where NJ and NY were in June with minimal numbers of cases.
Those states are reaching peaks because people started to change behavior.
Here is the life-cycle of this virus.
Virus starts to spread: "it's a hoax"
Infection rates starts to increase: "it's fine, hospitalizations aren't going up"
Hospitalizations start to increase: "It's fine, it's healthy people. Deaths aren't increasing"
Deaths start to increase: "oh ****, maybe we should take it seriously"
This wasn't inevitable.
It looks like the MLB season is now in flux. At 14least Marlins staff/players tested positive for the virus. And apparently the Marlins KNEW that 4 players tested positive before yesterday's game but they still allowed those players to play. Irresponsible right there.
I disagree with the logic that the virus was gonna run its course in other states no matter what. Other states could have social distanced, worn masks, and not densely populated hang out environments. Again i will state that the protest gatherings surely had a part in this as well.
Considering your regard for human life vs the economy, I will assume your bridge skirts safety for economic gain and pass. Thanks.
Yep. The virus spreads when it has the opportunity to do so. Remove the opportunity, and it doesn't spread.
I do believe the protests played a part as well.
It isn't just the economy. It's about returning to normal and just living your life. People get sick and die every day from various things.
alex berenson is one of the biggest frauds going. he wrote a whole book on how weed makes people violent psychopaths
i believe overall deaths are up (encompassing any reason) showing that this virus is something extra from the "various every day things"
i think that might explain why people are reacting the way they are.
ex: what if aliens plucked away one of every 10000 people under 50. people would say "yea the death rate is extremely low, but this never used to happen and is now an additional problem that we arent happy with"
Right... and sometimes we will be faced with something new and we should respond to it accordingly.
Like when it is because of food contamination, the FDA will step in to ensure food safety.
When it is because of faulty car parts, the department of transportation will ensure that there are auto recalls.
Sometimes we are able to prevent these deaths and it is not uncommon that we will add in additional protections to do so.
So because you disagree with him on one issue, you discredit him completely. Sounds like good logic! He's been spot on with regards to this issue and the hysteria/panic caused by the media and politicians. There are some people so scared and brainwashed that they still haven't left their homes.
With regards to weed, it is not something I'd do and it should not be legalized.
LOL. its fine if he doesnt do it, but what a absurdly cold take. wonder what his thoughts on alcohol are? that should be banned way before weed. has legal weed caused any issues so far? none?
he makes some good points, and i welcome his devils advocate nature of covid, but anyone against legal weed is pretty offbase imo.
I am also against alcohol. I don't drink and I believe it is one of the worst things you can do to your body. But I also realize it would be impossible to ban, so I just choose not to associate myself with it.
cant seriously think weed should be illegal without alcohol being illegal. How about everything is fine in moderation? How about Americans can do what they want? How about people can make the choice to assume the risk alcohol brings on your body?
seems like your tune has changed because you dont agree with something. funny how that is. see some hypocrisy here.
They would both be illegal if up to me, but I am not the decider. I am one person. Because it is legal, people do assume the risk on their health. Not sure what you are referring to as to my tune changing.
We are getting off track, but I support people having the freedom to make those choices, but do you believe others should be on the hook for their medical costs for rehab and drug/alcohol dependency if they can't manage consumption? With personal choice, comes personal responsibility.
with covid you have a strong stance the govt should butt out, dont force people to wear masks, quarantine for their health etc. its taking away basic freedoms. meanwhile you want the govt to deny freedoms to possess a plant. LOL.
I guess that's fair when you look at it that way, but the plant you speak of is already illegal federally and in some states. My opinion is it should stay that way.
There is more to the virus stuff than looking at it the way you phrased it. This is about controlling the population, changing behavior and setting precedent for something else that may happen down the line. This in addition to the political motive, which is quite strong.
300,000 people have been hospitalized due to Covid and 150,000 people have died in less than 5 months.
Mandating masks was to stop the spread and lower the number of hospitalizations and deaths.
The criminalization of marijuana has done way more for population control than this mask wearing.
No just the opposite. If you require rehab because YOU chose to use alcohol or drugs, YOU should have to pay a higher premium than someone that doesn't (use or need rehab)
im asking if you think that is how it currently happens? last time i checked you do pay higher premiums for alcoholism/cigarette smoking etc. last time i checked you or your family must pay for your rehab.
to be fair, ive never actually been to rehab so i have no first hand knowledge.
Your drops have gotten much larger.
How big is your bucket of dead people before you care?
When healthy, young people start dying at high rates, then it's an issue. Half of the 150K deaths have been in nursing homes. Even the common cold could lead to death in those people unfortunately, they're already in rough shape. When you're in a nursing home, a lot can go wrong.
We are moving in that direction but not completely there yet. For instance, if we have the same insurance and we both get injured driving in a car accident but one person is sober and the other is drunk, There is no differentiation in healthcare costs
Good signs we may have reached the plateau on new cases.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html
people react negatively to conspiracy theorists and some of your statements border that type of thinking.
nobody hear wants this virus to continue. im in the middle of the spectrum here, i think its real and i think we also need to get things moving now that we flattened the curve. but if nov 4th comes and we find out its all a hoax and everythings fine im cool admitting i was somewhat wrong... if it means things are back to normal.
I think it is real too. The difference is I don't think it's a hugely serious problem that requires shutdowns, restrictions etc. I feel certain groups are amplifying and sensationalizing it for a variety of reasons. One of those reasons is the election. It's very rare that something serious happens in an election year by coincidence, especially when the incumbent has such virulent opponents who would do (and have tried) anything to remove him from office.
