In Hilton Head, SC, isn't every other condo community called a plantation?
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In Hilton Head, SC, isn't every other condo community called a plantation?
I have the Mulberry Dr Seuss book in excellent condition and it’s going for $400 on eBay. I’ll stash that one away for a rainy day.
That’s way different than telling your mostly black players to stay on the plantation after a bad loss. Isn’t it get off the reservation? How can anyone but a grammar school child - and even that - confuse the terms as some posters suggested.In Hilton Head, SC, isn't every other condo community called a plantation?
McDermott has been around for a long time without any reputation of incendiary remarks; he seems liked and respected by his players. He gets a mulligan on this one.
Is that better?????
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Then he said scalper when talking about getting tickets for the next home game. How about when Biellen slipped and said now you are not playing like thugs instead of slugs when the Cavs coach. McDermott should not get fired over this.
The plantation golf course in Hawaii where the PGA Sentry tournament of champions is played will have to be renamed for sure.That’s way different than telling your mostly black players to stay on the plantation after a bad loss. Isn’t it get off the reservation? How can anyone but a grammar school child - and even that - confuse the terms as some posters suggested.
Don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone make that analogy, ever, in any context.
Just a completely bizarre thing to say.
Maybe he meant to say reservation. McDermott seems like a stand up guy.
Reservation isn’t the most PC word. That would just set off a whole bunch of different problems.Agree that would make more sense. But based on his own “apology” ( the quotes aren’t because I don’t believe it, just merely that’s the context) he didn’t say he misspoke... and meant “reservation “ which I would think he would have, had that been the case
And this tweet is why I loathe Twitter and social media as the plague on society it is. Now a former player opens the door to all kinds of speculation. Either do something that matters or don’t. If Patton has examples of McDermott being a rascist, despite the guy coaching young black kids and working with minorities for several decades, than come out and say it. Otherwise that’s outright garbage to put out there.
Reservation isn’t the most PC word. That would just set off a whole bunch of different problems.
See I’m liberal on many things and just don’t get this. I understand the historical context from long ago with Native Americans, but the Oxford dictionary defines it deviating from what is expected, customary or usual, and that’s how it is always used. I’ve never heard anyone think usage of that phrase is some form of rascism.
I don’t disagree. I was just saying in an apology it’s probably best to stay away from anything that could be construed as racist, even if that was his original intent to use reservation.See I’m liberal on many things and just don’t get this. I understand the historical context from long ago with Native Americans, but the Oxford dictionary defines it deviating from what is expected, customary or usual, and that’s how it is always used. I’ve never heard anyone think usage of that phrase is some form of rascism.
my dad had a lady who tried to get him fired because he used the phrase company "picnic".
Agree, the only way he survives this is if his players stand by his side.The only thing I see saving him is if his players come to his defense and say we know the man, he is the farthest thing from a racist and this was totally out of character, not his intent, a slip of the tounge.
Backlash wiil be greater once news spreads.
If it was a State school he would been gone already regardless.
He frigging misspoke. Most likely meant “reservation” You ever search for a word and not be able to find it? Of course I guess reservation is racist too. We’re screwed as a societyIt's an analogy about the team sticking together after losing a game. You think Greg McDermott, a white man who has coached predominantly black players for two decades is racist? Crazy. Absolutely crazy.
By the way, would you be shocked to learn that there are living communities and golf courses called plantations in the American south?
This...the thought that you can derail someone’s career over something like this that’s said at an emotional time is really a joke. How often do we see people insert the wrong term in an analogy. Like “water under the dam”.He frigging misspoke. Most likely meant “reservation” You ever search for a word and not be able to find it? Of course I guess reservation is racist too. We’re screwed as a society
Agree, the only way he survives this is if his players stand by his side.
Well it is Nebraska after all.
Anyone remember Warner Wolf? He now lives in Florida in a gated community called 'something' Plantation. For years he railed to eliminate the word Plantation and with no positive result took down the sign in front of the gate.
He was caught on security tape, fined by the law, and had to pay for the replacement of the sign.
Everyone should be judged on the totality of their career not a word or phrase spoken in a locker room after a game. Seem like he has an Eric Murdoch issue. He’s been coaching way too long for any racist tendencies to be hidden. Hope his players past and present speak out.This...the thought that you can derail someone’s career over something like this that’s said at an emotional time is really a joke. How often do we see people insert the wrong term in an analogy. Like “water under the dam”.
With all due respect, imho that statement is too sweeping.It's a bonkers world these days. Anything considered normal can be construed as racism by some of the radical people in our society.
Agree, the only way he survives this is if his players stand by his side.
This is not an awakening, it’s sowing the seeds of more division for political power.
There’s a growing segment that wants blood for everything. Any type of comment like this must be punished and people have to lose their livelihoods as retribution. Talk about division. You’d think an apology and dialogue would be preferred if we’re really talking insensitivity or whatever. That’s just the start. They then get branded radioactive racists for life or the latest tend where you’re racist and don’t know it!
We’re going nuts. This is not an awakening, it’s sowing the seeds of more division for political power. Cultural diversity and inclusion is legit and nuanced. That’s not this cancel culture.
When the current MSM is the moral compass, we have a big problem.Seth Greenberg just threw McDermott under the bus on ESPN. Said he should be suspended and needs to examine himself and find out where that came from . Needs to be away from his team Seth says. Keyshawn said he should resign.
I am sure if McDermott said guys we need everybody to stay on the ship that he meant a slave ship. Nobody ever better use the phrase the inmates are running the asylum ever again. McDermott sounds like he has a pattern of this, a real Andrew Cuomo type.
This is laughable even for you hall85....social media just like any other area of life, good can come with it but also very to awfully bad. The main issue with social media is that any stiff can publish or author commentary without any merit. That in part is what freaks out people like you and others who feel social media is evil. There is an ongoing saga happening right now in mlb on callaway and uncomfortable workplaces for female professionals. Francona's son puts out an objective statement yesterday his replies are that he has daddy and family issues and he has thrown his dad, who was an enabler of how this saga got to this point under the bus.When the current MSM is the moral compass, we have a big problem.
This is why I stay off the cesspool of social media. Someone who can string 140 characters together on twitter has more influence than someone that is actually accomplished and has done good tangible things for others in society.
We all need to be more sensitive and have adult conversations about these issues. He should not have used the term as people are very sensitive and he and we all need to be more sensitive.